Just to be clear: I mean this to be in addition to not instead of the ruby
group.
Some names that come to mind:

* XUG (where X is something that is technical and can be used)
* The Sesame Street Generation
* Software Dilettantes
* Newbies Anonymous

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Mark Ryall <[email protected]> wrote:

> For a while, i've been thinking of trying to kick off a more nebulous user
> group in Melbourne that has a much less specific technical focus - kind of
> like a monthly barcamp with lightning talks only (maximum 15 minutes).
> It seems inevitable that any programming language based user group will
> turn into something like a cutlery user group: there's a limit to the amount
> of momentum that can be maintained in discussions of how many tines a fork
> should optimally have or whether splayds should ever be taken seriously.
>
> In addition to the sort of technical interests that directly relate to the
> work I do (ruby, java or .net mostly) i've also been getting into erlang,
> scala (and lift), f#, clojure (and compojure), haskell, functional
> programming generally and too many others to mention.  Most conversations at
> the ruby group over pizza seem to revolve around these other more esoteric
> interests.  It takes an enormous amount of time to research these things
> myself so i'd love to be able to attend regular (short, focused)
> presentations that save me some time.
>
> Also, the storm that immediately started brewing when Daniel mentioned his
> opinion on testing clearly indicated that we all have very different (and
> passionately held) beliefs on technical practices.  Many people replied on
> this thread saying that they'd like to talk about how to do BDD.
>
> I was a little disappointed when the melbourne ruby user group morphed into
> rails oceania.  Losing the parochialism was a great idea but mentioning
> rails in the group name seems a little overly specific for my liking (maybe
> only 50% of our presentations relate to rails).
>
> What does everyone think?  Anyone else a dilettante like me?
>
> Mark.
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dave Goddard <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> I would be very keen on a talk about testing
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Daniel N <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Guys,
>> >
>> > Thanx for letting me blah on a bit last night.  It was good to get
>> > some of that info out there.
>> >
>> > Just a couple of things I wanted to follow up on.
>> >
>> > After talking to some folks after the presentation I realised I
>> > misrepresented myself a bit when talking about changing methods
>> > marked for private api use.  When I say I change then it's not that
>> > I'm doing it maliciously to break ppls code.  Rather that I just
>> > don't regard the private api.  It's internal to the system that I'm
>> > making and if I need / want to change it for some reason then I
>> > will. If that's an restructure or just because I don't like the
>> > name, or if I want to change the behavior of that "private" method,
>> > then I will.  I don't hold any regard and I expect that ppl will not
>> > use a method marked private.  It's very liberating :)
>> >
>> > The other is specs.  I made some very bold statements about specing
>> > without really justifying them.  They're my opinion, and not mine
>> > alone.  I realise that specing is somewhat of a religious topic
>> > though so I'd like to justify my stance a bit if ppl are up for it.
>> > I'd like to do a talk next month and focus on BDD.  Anyone up for
>> > that?
>> >
>> > Thanx for a good night.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Daniel
>> >
>> > >
>>
>> >>
>>
>

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