> Hey I've got bigger fish to fry and want to run something by you all.
*Risking rebuke.. (*I can take it BTW)
You are upset because, things didn't work out as planned.
Things didn't work out because no one followed the plan.
Then, when leadership could have been used, it wasn't..
and the result was everyone went their own way.
*First I'll tell you.. "Pizza" is a code word for boys
to kick back and party down. Cooking anything else shifts
the event into a Team-patrol-skills session about inter-dependence.
I assume this was not a formal campout, as you said a "overnighter"
but was permission slips issued and a agenda followed?
*come-back...<G>
Doc
We
> had a sleep over for the Pioneers and TB's and since I run the TB's we
> made plans to get some pizza, etc. in last weeks meeting and have some
> left over for breakfast. They brought their own money and soda- I kicked
> in a few bucks for my share. Anyway the Pioneer commander got sick and
> didn't show so we had combine groups for the pizza. This gets involved
> so bear with me...The SA leader/Pioneer mother was there for the early
> part of the evening and she offered to kick in more money to get enough
> pizza for all of them. However the pizza was finished off that night but
> they got some of their money back. My TB's felt slighted and copted an
> attitude except for a new boy who is catholic but got slain in the
> spirit that night.
> The Pioneers were supposed to cook some hamburgers which were available.
> Well the SA leader/Pioneer mom got mad at them for not being willing to
> share (which I don't think was the case, but they wanted to do what they
> had planned) so they didn't want to help with the work of getting ready
> for the yard sale in the morning. I took them home because of their
> attitude and not being willing to help but mostly because the mom
> hounded me to do something about them. This has been repeated in several
> conflicts and I'm tired of being pushed to jump on boys.
> Well today, the day after, I was talking to another ranger, who was on
> suspension for stealing and lying about it and is a good friend of mine,
> and he revealed to me that the main offender with the attitude (who is
> fairly new-about 4 meeting now) was sexually molested and has considered
> suicide. Whew -there I got it all out.
> I tend to be forgiving especially in light of new info. I think God
> gives us many chances to turn back to Him. What say you all?
> Bob Simons
>
> For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD,
> "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give
> you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mrkcrcl12
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: NEW QUESTION? [RR] *If I buy you lunch for $20..
>
>
> My Pastor uses "interactive" sermons on many occasions. These sermons
> use input and responses from the people in the pews. (He doesn't use a
> pulpit either...how refreshing.) They are definatly not what I call
> entertaining but they do get and keep your attention and they are
> extremely effective at getting the point across. I've encountered both
> the structured/non-interactive church service and the interactive church
> service. Given an option...give me interactive any day...in a
> interactive service the mind doesn't wander as much and you don't dare
> go to sleep...grin.
> I bet that "$20 dollar" sermon had every ones undivided attention. I
> wouldn't call that flim flam...I would call it a good use of the
> resources at hand. I've seen some crazier things done in uth
> services...why?...to get the undivided attention of the uth so that the
> gospel can be presented. Personally, my $20 stays in my pocket. On
> judgement day God will sort all the "$20 sermons" and He will decide
> what is flim flam and what was divine inspiration. We're on the same
> team...our perspectives are just different.
>
> Mike Archer :)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doc EagleDad
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:36 PM
> Subject: NEW QUESTION? [RR] *If I buy you lunch for $20..
>
>
>
> *I guess I'm "On it" with reguard to Flim Flam
> Con-Artists and the general use of the terms:
>
> "I don't care who you are or what you think"
>
> When I sit in a pew... it isn't for entertainment
> or to watch the magician do a trick. With reguard to
> stomping on a $20 bill.. *If that suits you then grab
> yur wallet and start jumping.. *It don't mean nothing
> to me. *But HELL will freeze, I said: they will be holding
> Olympic Ice Danceing in HELL before I'll walk up..
> submit to a con-artist and be sold a bill of goods.
>
> Someone, thinks the $20 bill is the same?
>
> You may not be able to detect my "upset".. BECAUSE IN A
> CHURCH SETTING UNLIKE RANGERNET.. *we construct the service
> so that it is NOT interactive..
>
> Given the ability to respond.. to INTERACT- say by a keyboard being
> right *there handy-*while the Man is stomping on the $20 bill in
> Church..you can be sure that I will be posting "upset"... and
> hitting control X!
>
> If the man offers you the $20.. run up there.
>
> I'd like to move on...
>
> Doc
>
> --- mrkcrcl12 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I believe the devotion that is refered to states the fact that a
> $20
> > bill is worth $20 no matter what it looks like or how much it has
> been
> > defaced by circumstances, I've never turned down a crumpled $20
> bill
> > when given as change and sure wouldn't pass one up if I saw it
> laying on
> > the street.
> > Just like our soul...God sees it as having the same value no
> matter what
> > has happened to us or how much we have rejected Him...He gave His
> life
> > to save our life.
> > The $20 was just a visual tool to get across a spiritual truth.
> >
> > Mike Archer :)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Doc EagleDad
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:17 PM
> > Subject: [RR] *If I buy you lunch for $20..
> >
> >
> >
> > If I buy you lunch and pay $2o.. fair trade?
> >
> > What if i then throw it on the ground and step in it?
> >
> > *I didn't touch it.. is it still worth $20?
> >
> > I paid $20 for your lunch..
> >
> >
> >
> > Doc
> >
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