Bob Simons
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doc EagleDad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bob Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [RR] problem boys?! > You are upset because, things didn't work out as planned. > Things didn't work out because no one followed the plan. Actually I'm not upset- I feel bad for boys that went home. They were upset because their original plans got changed. They had to share with the Pioneers and that wasn't what they had planned. > Then, when leadership could have been used, it wasn't.. > and the result was everyone went their own way. Well leadership was home sick and not everyone went home just 3 boys. > > *First I'll tell you.. "Pizza" is a code word for boys > to kick back and party down. Cooking anything else shifts > the event into a Team-patrol-skills session about inter-dependence. Yeah I hear ya...pizza is party down mode food. > > I assume this was not a formal campout, as you said a "overnighter" > but was permission slips issued and a agenda followed? Yes, forms were sent home and we had an agenda but a sick commander can change things a bit. > > *come-back...<G> > > Doc > > We > > had a sleep over for the Pioneers and TB's and since I run the TB's we > > made plans to get some pizza, etc. in last weeks meeting and have some > > left over for breakfast. They brought their own money and soda- I kicked > > in a few bucks for my share. Anyway the Pioneer commander got sick and > > didn't show so we had combine groups for the pizza. This gets involved > > so bear with me...The SA leader/Pioneer mother was there for the early > > part of the evening and she offered to kick in more money to get enough > > pizza for all of them. However the pizza was finished off that night but > > they got some of their money back. My TB's felt slighted and copted an > > attitude except for a new boy who is catholic but got slain in the > > spirit that night. > > The Pioneers were supposed to cook some hamburgers which were available. > > Well the SA leader/Pioneer mom got mad at them for not being willing to > > share (which I don't think was the case, but they wanted to do what they > > had planned) so they didn't want to help with the work of getting ready > > for the yard sale in the morning. I took them home because of their > > attitude and not being willing to help but mostly because the mom > > hounded me to do something about them. This has been repeated in several > > conflicts and I'm tired of being pushed to jump on boys. > > Well today, the day after, I was talking to another ranger, who was on > > suspension for stealing and lying about it and is a good friend of mine, > > and he revealed to me that the main offender with the attitude (who is > > fairly new-about 4 meeting now) was sexually molested and has considered > > suicide. Whew -there I got it all out. > > I tend to be forgiving especially in light of new info. I think God > > gives us many chances to turn back to Him. What say you all? > > Bob Simons > > > > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, > > "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give > > you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mrkcrcl12 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:20 PM > > Subject: Re: NEW QUESTION? [RR] *If I buy you lunch for $20.. > > > > > > My Pastor uses "interactive" sermons on many occasions. These sermons > > use input and responses from the people in the pews. (He doesn't use a > > pulpit either...how refreshing.) They are definatly not what I call > > entertaining but they do get and keep your attention and they are > > extremely effective at getting the point across. I've encountered both > > the structured/non-interactive church service and the interactive church > > service. Given an option...give me interactive any day...in a > > interactive service the mind doesn't wander as much and you don't dare > > go to sleep...grin. > > I bet that "$20 dollar" sermon had every ones undivided attention. I > > wouldn't call that flim flam...I would call it a good use of the > > resources at hand. I've seen some crazier things done in uth > > services...why?...to get the undivided attention of the uth so that the > > gospel can be presented. Personally, my $20 stays in my pocket. On > > judgement day God will sort all the "$20 sermons" and He will decide > > what is flim flam and what was divine inspiration. We're on the same > > team...our perspectives are just different. > > > > Mike Archer :) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Doc EagleDad > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:36 PM > > Subject: NEW QUESTION? [RR] *If I buy you lunch for $20.. > > > > > > > > *I guess I'm "On it" with reguard to Flim Flam > > Con-Artists and the general use of the terms: > > > > "I don't care who you are or what you think" > > > > When I sit in a pew... it isn't for entertainment > > or to watch the magician do a trick. With reguard to > > stomping on a $20 bill.. *If that suits you then grab > > yur wallet and start jumping.. *It don't mean nothing > > to me. *But HELL will freeze, I said: they will be holding > > Olympic Ice Danceing in HELL before I'll walk up.. > > submit to a con-artist and be sold a bill of goods. > > > > Someone, thinks the $20 bill is the same? > > > > You may not be able to detect my "upset".. BECAUSE IN A > > CHURCH SETTING UNLIKE RANGERNET.. *we construct the service > > so that it is NOT interactive.. > > > > Given the ability to respond.. to INTERACT- say by a keyboard being > > right *there handy-*while the Man is stomping on the $20 bill in > > Church..you can be sure that I will be posting "upset"... and > > hitting control X! > > > > If the man offers you the $20.. run up there. > > > > I'd like to move on... > > > > Doc > > > > --- mrkcrcl12 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > I believe the devotion that is refered to states the fact that a > > $20 > > > bill is worth $20 no matter what it looks like or how much it has > > been > > > defaced by circumstances, I've never turned down a crumpled $20 > > bill > > > when given as change and sure wouldn't pass one up if I saw it > > laying on > > > the street. > > > Just like our soul...God sees it as having the same value no > > matter what > > > has happened to us or how much we have rejected Him...He gave His > > life > > > to save our life. > > > The $20 was just a visual tool to get across a spiritual truth. > > > > > > Mike Archer :) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Doc EagleDad > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:17 PM > > > Subject: [RR] *If I buy you lunch for $20.. > > > > > > > > > > > > If I buy you lunch and pay $2o.. fair trade? > > > > > > What if i then throw it on the ground and step in it? > > > > > > *I didn't touch it.. is it still worth $20? > > > > > > I paid $20 for your lunch.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Doc > > > > > > ===== > > > *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership. > > > --------------********+********-------------------- > > > Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower, > > > of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself, > > > and both in the .....cause! > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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