Sticking my big nose where it don't belong<G>

*Clint has thought long and hard and posted his beliefs
and even explained his resoning.  We have all sat under
Preaching that had elements where the Truth was used to
instruct us in faith healing.

People got healed, and some didn't..

I beleve with all my heart, that GOD has the power to heal.

Systems of belief are often gathered to form doctrine, and
yeild tenets of faith for people to join in fellowship. Fellowship,
is our bound here on Rangernet... and to that end we must guard
free speech.

Being somewhat "infamious" for wipping Dead horses.. I understand
the convictions expressed, may upset individuals by strikeing far
to close to home. I admit, that my convictions about gender may
be wrong or un-called for. *I'm just human<G>

Thanks for hearing me out..

*I'm feeling hyper and a bit depressed.. will someone wack me
with a rod to cheer me up? <G> ..that will take my mind off my
"funk" and give me something real to feel<G>

D.Wheeler
A#1



--- Jeff & Ellrena Ortner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> clint grant wrote
> I have formulated my own theory on the matter, based upon four things:
> my limited knowledge of the subject,
> 
> <>< I would have to agree with that
> 
> Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that ADD could either be a
> result of chemical imbalance due to the lack of proper discipline in the
> home, or not a chemical imbalance at all, just poor behavior from not
> raising kids right.  This is the only explanation and conclusion that I
> can draw from the evidence and the only one I have found that is
> supported by God's Word.
> 
> This is the biggest bunch of crock that I ever heard 
> My son has this problem and he receives much love, patience, and
> understanding, and discipline. I have even been told that I have been to
> strict on him before.  Being apart of pastors home he has been
> critiqued, condemned, and criticized by many that don't understand.  He
> has been in Royal Rangers all his life and what I have read tonight
> takes the cake on total condemnation towards me personally and my
> family. Plus many involved with rangers and 100's of pastors that their
> children are ADD
> Jeffery Ortner,  now 17 years old, He has 28 merits and 1st class Trail
> Ranger ranking makes the A-B HONOR Roll, and Plays Varsity football. Yes
> he is slow in many areas but,  I am sure that many know him at Sarge
> Sellers camp and that they see him as a loving responsive young man. I
> have gone to every commander that has worked with him and told them to
> don't give special options, but make him do the work and earn those
> merits.
>     
> If anyone wants to talk ADD, then I say work in that department of a
> school for 10 years that deals with this type of children before you
> bring this type of judgement, or better yet have your own child be ADD
> and just see how you handle it.   
>     This is the same type of false concept thinking that was brought
> down the pike about 30 years ago with those that had illegitimate
> children. Which I know  of a few teachers, Ranger fathers, pastors, in
> high places.  Are we going to throw them in the pile too.  
>     This reminds me of about 15 years ago those in the Charismatic
> movement that use to think if a Christian Brother was sick or had
> something going wrong in his life. He must be in sin and needs to
> repent. 
> 
> You know what should have been posted on this email instead of this
> trash?
> <<<>  HOW TO UNDERSTAND AND DEAL WITH THOSE BOYS THAT HAVE ADD <<<> or
> maybe a leadership talk on patience, love, and understanding the problem
> child.
> 
> I hope my wife doesn't see this email that was sent to me, she will
> explode & probably go all the way up to our District Commander who his
> wife, is a very personal friend of hers.
> 
>  As a pioneer pastor, teacher, and Royal Ranger leader for 20 years, I
> hope that many of you will look at your boys as a father figure in this
> cruel world, that they see no hope in the future. and pray that you make
> the difference towards  them that cannot be normal, or feel like they
> can't succeed, and are pushed aside because they are different (than my
> kid).  and build a Outpost that shows camaraderie, teamwork and
> belonging to a child that can't always function as others.  Your touch,
> love, and patience may make the difference towards a lost boys soul.
> 


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