Fw: [RR] Can a Christian be a Libertarian, Independent orDemocrat?

[Bob Simons]

Jonathan- Very interesting but disappointing. To think of our founding fathers as unbelievers is a hard one to swallow. I apologize for making such a statement that I thought to be true. When you see the place in the church where George knelt and prayed many times you assume that he was practising Christianity. I hope I didn't offend you. You seem to know what your talking about. Bob Simons Outpost 48 Tucson, AZ. O'Day 20   For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan & Dawnya To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rangernet Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [RR] Can a Christian be a Libertarian, Independent orDemocrat? Does David Barton discuss their activities as Freemasons at all in his book?  If not, then the book is not complete.  I've done thesis research into these matters --founding fathers being deists & masons - and have found a LOT of great material dated from the time of the Revolution.  I don't always trust content from our present time.  Look at the arguments we've had over newer versions of the Bible.  Time causes things to become distorted.    Even an atheist will cry out to God in time of great need.  The Mormons believe in Jesus Christ, but are not Christians.  Therefore, just because a prayer written by Geo. Washington (I have read it) mentions Christ doesn't mean he was Christian.   Also, like it or not, if you study the practices and beliefs of the Freemasons, you will find a person cannot be both a mason & a Christian.  The masons are contradictory to Christ's teachings and Paul's writings of the New Testament.   Just some food for thought. *********************** Jonathan Conti *********************** ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [RR] Can a Christian be a Libertarian, Independent orDemocrat? I got the qutoe from his book, "Origional Intent" by David Barton. It was printed on WallBuilder Press in 1997.    The quote I took was on page 207.  It is in a section on Madison, Jeffereson and their religious views. David Barton gathered his information for just this section from:        Jeffereson's "Writings" vol 16, 19        Jeffereson's "Memoir" vol 4        Henry S Randall "The Life of Thomas Jefferson"  vol 3 (1858)        (an opposite view of this view is in "Jeffereson's Extracts from the Gospel" written in 1983, and edited by Dickinson W. Adams)        "American State Papers" vol 4 from 1832 XkeithX