RE: [RR] Can a Christian be a Libertarian, Independent orDemocrat?

[Guerrero, SGT-Jason J]

What I find to be rather disheartening is the fact that while I was at work I brought up the subject of separation of church and state. I will be the first to admit I don't work with highly intellectual people( myself included), not only do they insisted that seperation of church and state is  what the first amendment meant, they actually think it is in the constitution word for word. I challenged them to point it out to me. As you can guess I'm still waiting.I would like to thank the person who brought this subject up.It has given me an oppertunity to witness to some of my co-workers. Pray for me and I for you.   Sgt Jason Guerrero > NAMTRAU AVI-3 ECM-Instructor > DSN 949-3838 COMM 559-998-3838 > e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > So we say with confidence, "The Lord is my helper; I     will not be afraid. What can man do to me?" Hebrews 13:6 -----Original Message----- From: Doug Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rangernet Subject: Re: [RR] Can a Christian be a Libertarian, Independent orDemocrat? He (Thomas Jefferson) believed in God, just because he had not seen the whole truth of Jesus Christ (yet) dose not mean he wanted government to tell him how to worship God. The separation of Church and state he had in mind was to keep the government out of religion NOT religion out of the government. Reread his words with this thought in mind. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan & Dawnya To: Doug Gray Cc: Rangernet Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [RR] Can a Christian be a Libertarian, Independent orDemocrat? If the he you are referring to is Thomas Jefferson - he was NOT a Christian; he was a Deist (as were most of the founding fathers.)  They were also all Freemasons, but that's beside the point.  A deist recognizes God, but not Jesus Christ; therefore, a deist cannot be a Christian.   Just wanted to pass along this little tidbit.  No flame intended. *********************** Jonathan Conti *********************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Gray To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [RR] Can a Christian be a Libertarian, Independent orDemocrat?     Yes he thought there should be constitutional rights to worship (he was a Christian) the one true God (the God of the Bible).And there should be a separation in that the government could not tell you how to worship. He NEVER meant that there should be a separation of God from the government. All laws made by our founders where bible based. The separation of Church and state he had in mind is TOTALLY different than the supreme courts interpretation. Get GOD back in the schools and the government NOW as our founding fathers had intended.     ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [RR] Can a Christian be a Libertarian, Independent orDemocrat? In a message dated 11/7/2002 2:11:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who, exactly, are "THEY"???? Michael _______  They would be the United States Supreme Court in a secision they passed down.  This decision comes from Thomas Jeffereson's letter of response to To Messrs. Nehemiah Dodge and Others A Committee of the Danbury Baptist Association in the State of Connecticut on January 1, 1802:               that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and State