I really appreciate discussions like that.
It gives me piece by piece insight into the soul of America.
I would probably be living with you fellows somewhere in the
US if not an overly nitpicking consulate lady would not have cancelled my
permit immediately after it was granted me.
The ink was still wet.

Guenter

45.5N122.7W schrieb:
--- "Guerrero, SGT-Jason J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
      I would have to agree on some points. I would have to agree that
my
weapon of choice is a PowerPoint presentation but don't let the green
grass
fool ya. There will always be a need for the PFC Mitch Silvers' in our
military. Regardless of how advanced our "smart" weaponry get. The same
PFC
who put his life on the line for my Father will have to do the same, for
my
son and yours.
    

Sgt.Guerrero-

I "Think" the public is being sold the image that the future American
warrior will be a pile of twisted drone aircraft, or debri..

*i.e. the bloodless war-

In the past.. Freedom was the issue we fought for, and sacrifice
was the "cause" that joined us in raiseing Morale. The reteric
coming from our leaders is not as clear as they think..

*My military experiance was in the Vietnam war-

Then the reteric from the top was lofty and nobel to support
and defend our allies against Communist agression.

*My Fathers war in '44-'45 was to liberate peoples in Europe from
facist totalerian rule..

Now my son, 18  is being told that we are in an endless War
that will take us wherever the enemy raises his head.. We will
do that with every techno-bomb and drone aircraft at our disposal!




 I know first hand that it takes a special person to do
  
what
some of our men and woman do. If and, it is a big if , a draft goes
through
it will still be business as usual.I tell you this, more can be
accomplished
with people who want to, than with people who have to.
    

Gee-  
Apparently, a shift in mission logic has happened inside the ranks..

Up to 1973 the Draftee was "good to go" and effective motivators
were employed by the USMC to turn raw recruits into "Talent"..

What's missing today, is the cross section of America that would
never enlist in the Marines, true.. But would shape the cadre to
reflect a wider footprint of America.

But I am not fundimentaly *Trying to fill the ranks of the Mil
for warfare.. *I see the resources of the Defence department
being shifted away from civilian infrastructure.

Schools are reduceing days, cutting sports and the states are
letting non-violent criminals out of jail..  *I susspect that
"Guns and Butter" only are sustainable for the short term.

GW Bush proposes an "Endless World tour of the Evil doers"..

 
  
    I do have a reply to your comment: "I have to wonder what "Duty"
would pull me from my role as father?"
  The "duty" you refer to is protecting everything you hold dear, sir.
    

Not true... but I understand your reasoning-

*I feel ownership in America by my service.. *But I also know
there are other places outside America that love freedom equal.

There are Christians that object to the US agenda for moral reasons..
There is an element that fears the US becomeing the lone superpower,
for absolute power often corupts absolutely..



  
There
are thousands of fathers around the world at this very moment that are
missing their families. I hope and pray that wasn't meant the way I
think itwas.
    

Here's the way I mean it...

Our Forefathers fought as citizen soldiers in the revolution for
an agreed time, then returned to harvest crops and care for their
farms and families.

I beleve my "Duty" is first to GOD then, family- and then *self and
finely-*Others-

Those that choose another system listing "Country" higher than
family have traded that away by choice, and are in service by agreement.

In 1974 I was a sailor reservist on board the USS John R.Craig
distroyer just back from Westpac..  There were crew on board that
had enlisted as an alturnitive to the Draft, and were openly smokeing
Dope while on duty!

FBI and Naval Intelligence stormed on one morning and locked the
crew on the ships messdeck and began to search the ship...

The XO came in.. *Stood on a table and began to lecture "truth"
to the crew. His version of his "Duty" held that the Navy was
above God and family, that his *Life required him to purge "his
Navy" of negitive dope smokers and non-hackers!

I was not a dope smoker, or a career navyman..

*I knew however he was wrong. Under the UCMJ I could not object
to his authority or his ethics. My "Duty" required me to submit
to his authority over me. He was a domination expert.

This situation was intolerable.. *To me- Tho..I did my "Duty"
and ended my service *Honorably.

*Now I hear things are "Better"

Interesting<G>


I read once " For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the
  
protected will never know."
    

Yes, tho many who have never fought or will.. taste of freedom daily!

-=A=-

  
  In closing
 Jason Guerrero not drafted, still served
 
  
-----Original Message-----
From: 45.5N122.7W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RR] *The "Draft" as a positive force for good-



Last night I heard on PBS the description of a professional
American armed force that does not welcome the *conscript soldier..
or Draftee-

American military does not need anyone on duty who does not want to
be there or shows a negitive attitude..  High Tech equipment needs
trained professionals with hands-on experiance. Draftee's would be
a encumberence.. and in abundence, a danger forceing "make work"
or mindless tasks to keep them occupied<G>

The current US Military is BIG BUSINESS! ..and business is winning war!

*Yet key to any recent action, is the Reserveist-

The media loves to show the reservist transitioning from
civilian life to military duty with heart tugging images of
Mom or Dad leaveing.. children.

I have to wonder what "Duty" would pull me from my role as father?
I susspect- *Reserveist pay is used to bankroll the family in the way
a workingman would pick up an extra job to make the bills easier..

What about Gen-X and the comming wave of citizens out of current
underfunded public schools? What about decaying cities, crime and
a tight job market? How does a young person find their way in this 
world?

Warfare in modern times is evolving into something never seen before
known as the "Bloodless war" where our troops use tools to search or
recon by remote control.  Aircraft is being developed to substitute
for pilots and withstand extream forces to successfully dogfight
beyond the physical abilities of humans!

In the recent Afgan war- *"global hawk" was deployed over targets to
circle and stand watch for individuals on the ground.. and had the
ability to target and hit them with force! *Who needs PFC Mitch Silvers!
Who needs the raw recruit, that stormed Normandy in '44 or fought
Tet '68?

To me the future Vet parades will be made of GI dog faces soldiers,
but only a few retiree's who can't talk about where they were, what
they did.. or what went on in so many places they can't remember'em!


*This thinking is so prominent, that the "Masters of War" now can
sit back and play domination poker with video control.

*Billions and BILLIONS of American dollars are invested... to build
an exclusive machine of global war-   

New thought-
-----------

Let's use those BILLIONS to better our society..

Let's take fresh minds and put them to work fighting crime and
standing guard in our cities. Let's have them work in medical
facilites and serve as Teachers in early childhood education..

Let's have them work on the "Infastructure" in differnt communities
to broaden their horizion's and outlook and fuel the fire to learn!

Let's make it manditory and universal so as to have the "privliged"
mix with the "deprived"..  *Let's make the parents THINK about where
their kids are going and proud of what they are doing..

In closeing-

*Elvis was drafted.. and served!

-=A=-



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