--- Guenter Pflaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really appreciate discussions like that. > It gives me piece by piece insight into the soul of America.
*I got to be honest with yah Guenter- American "soul" is on display at the Walmart... (Major discount department store to real America) It seemes no real American can afford American USA goods<G> Why- the President is cutting a deal reduceing tax on Stock dividends when real Americans scramble to feed themselves and stay employed is a picture of the "Gulf War".. 40% of Americas wealth is in the hands of 4% of the population. Often the way to "Make big money" is to end jobs! Not all Americans drive new cars or invest in fashion. I find it hard to beleve that a high school grad can find a job anywhere doing anything that will afford a apartment/utilities and food and transportation! This is a real enemy to Freedom! -------------------------------- No Draft? How about snappy TV ads of the Army "*Be all that you can be!" This is the selling point to my son- His High School *welcomes military recruiters on campus. Josh almost has a "friendship" on a first name basis with professional's saddled with the task of finding manpower for the military war machine. They sell soft- They sell adventure-opportunity- security... On the civilian side of what an 18 year old see's is *Un-employment or enrolment in College or training to allow him to enter the work force.. *WAITING LIST- *Meanwhile.. a universal draft would give kids a shot at the trasition into responsibility, while society gains from their manpower.. The Goverment of America should be about *People not "War Winning" -=a=- Today, > I would probably be living with you fellows somewhere in the > US if not an overly nitpicking consulate lady would not have cancelled > my > permit immediately after it was granted me. > The ink was still wet. > > Guenter > > 45.5N122.7W schrieb: > > >--- "Guerrero, SGT-Jason J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> I would have to agree on some points. I would have to agree that > >>my > >>weapon of choice is a PowerPoint presentation but don't let the green > >>grass > >>fool ya. There will always be a need for the PFC Mitch Silvers' in our > >>military. Regardless of how advanced our "smart" weaponry get. The > same > >>PFC > >>who put his life on the line for my Father will have to do the same, > for > >>my > >>son and yours. > >> > >> > > > >Sgt.Guerrero- > > > >I "Think" the public is being sold the image that the future American > >warrior will be a pile of twisted drone aircraft, or debri.. > > > >*i.e. the bloodless war- > > > >In the past.. Freedom was the issue we fought for, and sacrifice > >was the "cause" that joined us in raiseing Morale. The reteric > >coming from our leaders is not as clear as they think.. > > > >*My military experiance was in the Vietnam war- > > > >Then the reteric from the top was lofty and nobel to support > >and defend our allies against Communist agression. > > > >*My Fathers war in '44-'45 was to liberate peoples in Europe from > >facist totalerian rule.. > > > >Now my son, 18 is being told that we are in an endless War > >that will take us wherever the enemy raises his head.. We will > >do that with every techno-bomb and drone aircraft at our disposal! > > > > > > > > > > I know first hand that it takes a special person to do > > > > > >>what > >>some of our men and woman do. If and, it is a big if , a draft goes > >>through > >>it will still be business as usual.I tell you this, more can be > >>accomplished > >>with people who want to, than with people who have to. > >> > >> > > > >Gee- > >Apparently, a shift in mission logic has happened inside the ranks.. > > > >Up to 1973 the Draftee was "good to go" and effective motivators > >were employed by the USMC to turn raw recruits into "Talent".. > > > >What's missing today, is the cross section of America that would > >never enlist in the Marines, true.. But would shape the cadre to > >reflect a wider footprint of America. > > > >But I am not fundimentaly *Trying to fill the ranks of the Mil > >for warfare.. *I see the resources of the Defence department > >being shifted away from civilian infrastructure. > > > >Schools are reduceing days, cutting sports and the states are > >letting non-violent criminals out of jail.. *I susspect that > >"Guns and Butter" only are sustainable for the short term. > > > >GW Bush proposes an "Endless World tour of the Evil doers".. > > > > > > > > > >> I do have a reply to your comment: "I have to wonder what "Duty" > >>would pull me from my role as father?" > >> The "duty" you refer to is protecting everything you hold dear, sir. > >> > >> > > > >Not true... but I understand your reasoning- > > > >*I feel ownership in America by my service.. *But I also know > >there are other places outside America that love freedom equal. > > > >There are Christians that object to the US agenda for moral reasons.. > >There is an element that fears the US becomeing the lone superpower, > >for absolute power often corupts absolutely.. > > > > > > > > > > > >>There > >>are thousands of fathers around the world at this very moment that are > >>missing their families. I hope and pray that wasn't meant the way I > >>think itwas. > >> > >> > > > >Here's the way I mean it... > > > >Our Forefathers fought as citizen soldiers in the revolution for > >an agreed time, then returned to harvest crops and care for their > >farms and families. > > > >I beleve my "Duty" is first to GOD then, family- and then *self and > >finely-*Others- > > > >Those that choose another system listing "Country" higher than > >family have traded that away by choice, and are in service by > agreement. > > > >In 1974 I was a sailor reservist on board the USS John R.Craig > >distroyer just back from Westpac.. There were crew on board that > >had enlisted as an alturnitive to the Draft, and were openly smokeing > >Dope while on duty! > > > >FBI and Naval Intelligence stormed on one morning and locked the > >crew on the ships messdeck and began to search the ship... > > > >The XO came in.. *Stood on a table and began to lecture "truth" > >to the crew. His version of his "Duty" held that the Navy was > >above God and family, that his *Life required him to purge "his > >Navy" of negitive dope smokers and non-hackers! > > > >I was not a dope smoker, or a career navyman.. > > > >*I knew however he was wrong. Under the UCMJ I could not object > >to his authority or his ethics. My "Duty" required me to submit > >to his authority over me. He was a domination expert. > > > >This situation was intolerable.. *To me- Tho..I did my "Duty" > >and ended my service *Honorably. > > > >*Now I hear things are "Better" > > > >Interesting<G> > > > > > >I read once " For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the > > > > > >>protected will never know." > >> > >> > > > >Yes, tho many who have never fought or will.. taste of freedom daily! > > > >-=A=- > > > > > > > >> In closing > >> Jason Guerrero not drafted, still served > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: 45.5N122.7W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:04 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: [RR] *The "Draft" as a positive force for good- > >> > >> > >> > >>Last night I heard on PBS the description of a professional > >>American armed force that does not welcome the *conscript soldier.. > >>or Draftee- > >> > >>American military does not need anyone on duty who does not want to > >>be there or shows a negitive attitude.. High Tech equipment needs > >>trained professionals with hands-on experiance. Draftee's would be > >>a encumberence.. and in abundence, a danger forceing "make work" > >>or mindless tasks to keep them occupied<G> > >> > >>The current US Military is BIG BUSINESS! ..and business is winning > war! > >> > >>*Yet key to any recent action, is the Reserveist- > >> > >>The media loves to show the reservist transitioning from > >>civilian life to military duty with heart tugging images of > >>Mom or Dad leaveing.. children. > >> > === message truncated === ===== *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership. --------------********+********-------------------- Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower, of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself, and both in the .....cause! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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