--- CmdrPier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It appears that CPR/FA training is optional, that is, while it is a > stated > requirement, no one is held back if they don't get the training. > > After teaching a CPR/FA class last Saturday that was poorly attended, I > wondered where our leaders are getting trained - not by me (I teach > CPR/FA > for our section, and most of the attendees in the last 3 years were > non-Rangers). > > Then I wondered if our leaders are untrained, why would the sponsoring > church let them take children and youth into the outdoors without > adequate > first aid training?
I woke-up to that fact, and it shook me good. Regretibly, the church is not fully invested in preparedness for a Outdoor adventure program. *If the potential for liability was debated openly, I don't see how many churches would sponser a Royal Ranger or Youth group. The church desires a "ministry" that meets the norms of other outreaches in cost, effectiveness and liability. Today as a BSA Scout leader~ I must have a valid health record on file for "over 40" and attend various youth protection classes and first aid. We file travel plans and send out parent release forms for every event or the boy don't go. While we do encourage adventure.. and "things happen" out there- The safety and welfare of every scout is the supream concern in reguard to mental,physical,social health. Are our churches willing to take that risk? Under > the > Pennsylvania Good Samaritan laws, it is very difficult to sue someone, > who > while providing aid, you harm the victim PROVIDED you are acting within > the > scope of your training. According to the Red Cross, the law is so clear > on > this that it is difficult to get an attorney to take one of these cases. > However, if you provide first aid and you haven't been trained, or you > don't > have a current card, you risk being sued because under the Good > Samaritan > laws because the scope of your training is ZERO, which means you do not > provide treatment, or you do so at your own risk. Agreed... A prudent man will assure that there is others to share decisions and back up plans for emergency situations, and share his thoughts with others in a crisis situation. A Ranger Leader acts as a figure of authority, but also is a steward of reason and balanced adult thinking. > > Having decided not to provide treatment because of the risk of being > sued > under the Good Samaritan laws, you and the church are now at risk of > being > sued by the parents because they entrusted their children to you and the > church, and the church did not provide trained leaders. I recall from > BLaw > that the law uses the "reasonable man" concept. In this case, would a > reasonable man assume that an organization taking boys camping, with all > the > hazards that go with it (use of knives, axes, etc.), would have leaders > trained to provide care in the event of injury? I think so. *Agreed... and that may encourage you to pack a cell phone or radio to signal for aid in an emergency. > > Now if our leaders are trained elsewhere, is that something the > sectional > leadership should track? Should Royal Rangers require all leaders to > have > training, if so how do you enforce it? Enforcement of policy is the domain of a sovern authority. The fact may be that your Pastor would choose that you not camp. Good Post and wise council A#1 > > I wonder if the churches and the Royal Ranger hierarchy are aware of > this > risk? Although our permission slips say we assume no "liability in case > of > accident or sickness" (full text below), the courts have ruled that you > cannot contract away responsibility for your negligence. If the > District or > National office has reviewed this issue with legal counsel, I'd be > curious > to know the outcome. > > I'm thinking that churches should require ALL their workers - volunteer > and > paid - to have CPR/FA training. > > Here's the text from our permission slips: > While striving to ensure a wholesome, safe, and closely supervised > environment for the boys in its care, the Penn-Del District, Southwest > Suburban Section, and Outpost 34 Royal Rangers cannot be held liable for > any > unforeseen and unforeseeable accident or injuries which may occur during > the > course of any Royal Ranger activity. Responsible leaders, persons, and > acting agents transporting on behalf of the Royal Ranger ministry of the > Assemblies of God assume no personal liability in case of accident or > sickness. > > Kelvin Pier > Outpost 34 > Southwest Suburban Section, Penn-Del District > > > _______ > > > List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: > http://eBible.org/rangernet/faq.htm > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://eBible.org/subscribe.htm ===== *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership. --------------********+********-------------------- Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower, of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself, and both in the .....cause! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com _______ List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: http://eBible.org/rangernet/faq.htm To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://eBible.org/subscribe.htm
