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From: Colette Adney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 10:10 AM
Subject: [RR] Fact Finding: Rangers/Youth on Wednesdays
>
>[delayed - nonmember submission]
>
>Our Youth Pastor (since November) has declared "the bottom line is we
have
>to change Youth from Sunday, the question when". "All larger
churches with
>successful youth programs are on Wednesday, no sports etc......"
>
>I know this issue has been discussed several times on rangernet and
now I
>wished that I would have saved all those posts. Be that as it may I
am
>here seeking information from groups that have faced the following
>situation and what effect it has had on the Ranger and Metts programs
in
>your churches.
>
>We are in the fact finding stage, met last night with the Youth
Pastor,
>Ranger/Missionette leaders and the Pastor. From the Ranger/Mettes
groups
>it would effect about 35 kids giving them a choice of attending Youth
at
>the local sports center or Rangers/Mettes at church. The Youth
Pastor
>feels that he can reach more "unchurched" kids by moving it to
Wednesday
>and out of the church setting. Out of the 35 afore mentioned kids
only
>about 7 of them currently attend youth so the Youth Pastor feels he
will
>not be drawing from the entire 35. He has also talked with other
youth
>pastors and has been told that in their churches the kids attend
youth but
>then attend Pow-Wow's and Retreats. We meet again in a couple of
weeks.
>Everyone was to remain open and pray about the situation. Thanks in
>advance for your input, it is greatly appreciated.
We lost MOST of our trailblazers when that happened. The church
eventually just tolerated rangers because they need a babysitting
program on wednesday nights. Now, we had to close trailblazers and we
only have 6 pioneers. The rest of our rangers have either gone to
another church or to youth group. Our missionettes program completely
died and they replaced it with another curriculum, "J.O.Y".
I am a Challenger and I decided to stay at rangers as a Jr. Cmdr. to
help out and I work on my stuff at home. I love RR, but I was given a
choice between 2 things I liked: Youth and Rangers. I don't think
that's fair.
Not to mention that when there were several unsaved kids in our RR
program and when Trailblazers died down, and there was no one to hang
out with, they left RR and our church.
>Do we give our kids a choice?
In my opionion, No.
>Do the kids leave Rangers/Mettes to attend Youth?
Yes!
>Did the Youth Program explode?
Not really, same amount of kids, save the ones they took from us.
>Did it build strong Youth on fire for God and strong leaders?
No.
>If a Ranger/Mette makes the move to Youth, do you allow them to
attend
>Pow-wow's and retreats?
Of course. Likewise, I go to all the youth events that I can.
Stephen Benjamin
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