*Parson!
"Why so many versions of Baptist doctrine?"
-=A=-
Andy Burns wrote:
>
> UPC, Apostolic and Nazarene are "Oneness" Churches, as in "Jesus Name" only.
>
> To mention the "trinity" is bad.
>
> UPC is a very legalistic based oneness movement that split off of the AG in
> it's youth back in the early days.
>
> The Oneness movement stemmed from a "revelation" that "the name of" the
> father, the son and the Holy Ghost is JESUS, so therefore, we must only
> refer to Jesus himself, and not the "three names".
>
> Some of the actually think that we believe in 3 Gods by our "Trinitarian"
> views, but others of them have come to realize that the issue is more about
> semantics than conflict.
>
> I was born and raised UPC until I was 9, then my parents moved into full
> time ministry the AG. I want to an AG Bible college and have been an AG PK
> (Preachers Kid) all my life, yet after college I obtained my credentials
> through the oneness movement (A branch off of the UPC called the
> International Ministerial Association). The IMA fit closer to my doctrine
> and beliefs at the time.
>
> I now am ordained via a branch off of the AG called Global Action
> International. For the same reasons I have always felt that I could not
> subscribe to the entire doctrine and practice of the AG, the GAI was
> formed.... but it's not "oneness" based.
>
> I have always taught that the issue was semantics in nature, not conflict
> based.
>
> Though the UPC gets carried away (IMHO) with many things in their legalism,
> they still believe the foundation in Jesus Christ and him crucified, risen
> and coming again... but you'd better be baptized too.... in both water and
> the Holy Ghost... or you'll miss out on heaven.
>
> In their doctrine, The Baptism in water MUST precede the Holy Spirit, and
> the baptism in water must have the words "I baptized you in Jesus Name"
> versus the AG way of "I baptize you in the Name of the Father, the Son, and
> the Holy Spirit".
>
> Their entire doctrine in this regard is based solely on Acts 2:38.... that's
> where the "revelation" came from at an AG camp meeting.
>
> You can get more history about this in the AG book from GPH called "Anointed
> to Serve", it's the History of the AG.
>
> Nazarene folks are oneness, but not near as legalistic as UPC or Apostolic.
>
> UPC & Apostolic based churches can get so radical at times, (IMHO) some of
> them tend to worship the 5 letters of the alphabet for the "name of JESUS"
> versus the creator and risen lord called Jesus. In the Bible, this is known
> as BAAL worship.
>
> I have many relatives and friends still in the oneness movement. Some won't
> speak to me because i'm not 'of their flock', some have literally told me
> that I'm going to hell for having been baptized the "AG way"... others
> understand the gospel message and the fact that it's ok to have differing
> doctrinal understanding, provided we believe the foundational truths of
> Christ and him crucified, risen and coming again.
>
> How we live our lives day to day seems to be more the issue in other
> Pentacostal cirlces, not necessariliy the foundation doctrine.
>
> I could go on... but I'm sure you all get the point. :-)
>
> Parson.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Duane Wheeler
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [RR] Kindred Fellowships?
>
> Howdy-
>
> *I exploring and wanted to know if the following churches
> were kindred to the AoG fellowship..
>
> Church of God of Prophecy
> United Pentecostal
> Church of the Nazarene
>
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