I respect all of Duanes points of view.
I praise God that 2000 years ago Jesus Christ died to meet every need
we have. James 1:17 says that "Every good and perfect gift comes from the
Father of lights above, with whom there is no variation or shadow of
turning."
Everything else comes from somewhere else.
And it is all the result of man giving the dominion God gave him here
on earth to Satan when he sinned. Christ died to gain that dominion back,
then made us joint heirs in all the rights he has as victor over the dark
domain.
I would have to confess that I believe the achievements of modern
medicine to fall under the category of James 1:17.
But the devil wont let it just end there.
He hates God, hates us, and will try his best to everything
that God has done. He will try his best to get us to rely on anything but
the blood of Jesus Christ.
Modern medicine is one convenient tool he will use to achieve this
goal.
The word says that in the last days knowledge shall increase. Men shall
be lovers of themselves. We will see more and more modern miracles of
medicine in the near future. We will also see many miracles of various other
nature. The controversy they provoke will tear the Body of Christ to shreds
just like the cat of nine tails did His back 2000 years ago.
Most won't make it. They will be fooled. Men of much higher caliber
than I could ever lay claim to will be led astray.
I don't condemn the use of ritalin, or other forms of treatment, except
when they deny the total and complete work that was done on the cross. I
don't say that this has been done in this case. I just say that there is a
more excellent way. And the only command we need to make is to Satan: "You
have no authority! Get out of here. In Jesus' name."
>From: Duane Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: clint grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [RR] Problem child
>Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:43:19 -0800
>
>
>
>clint grant wrote:
> >
> > The boy in my outpost who presents us with opportunities was recently
>taken
> > off ritalin by his parents. Others commanders have said that "if any boy
> > ever needed ritalin, this is the one."
>
>
>I ain't qualifyed to judge or have an opinion beyond this-
>
>If I had the jitters I'd take the pills.
>
>Modern meds have come a long way from where they were just 10
>years ago. I had a loved one who suffered a lifetime and today
>there is no justifyible reason to live that way.
>
> > I quickly disagreed.
> > This world has gone 6000 years without ritalin. The real problems
>with
> > boys did not start until it was introduced. And until we as a society
>quit
> > obeying the word of God.
>
>I ain't qualifyed to point my finger at "society" and tell folks what to
>do.
>There seems to be plenny willing, and my presence won't be missed.
>
>Especially Proverbs. What most of these kids need
> > is an attitude adjustment.
>
>Yup.. and the cure can come in the blink of an eye!
>But when we tell depressed folks to *snap out of it..
>or when we hear teens make fun of shoot'n up a school
>sometimes our *judgment of a situation is all the warning
>the world gets for a *Bloodbath..
>
>When we question a suttle observation, we are doing the work
>of the Lord to bring healing to the children.
>
>*Spirit Rider's boy has been in the OP for 7 mo's and now..
>they don't know what to do... *I'm saying the kid has suffered
>needlessly.
>
>
>Only thier parents can do that, and then not
> > much, or CPS will take the kids away so that the foster care program can
> > step in and finish ruining the kids life.
>
>I get it.. Professional medical attention is the tool of the
>Anti-Christ to bring mind control by drugs to our youth... *Right?
>
>I had some friends who had a ADD kid hang himself, and the rope busted,
>and they didn't want to take him in to a Doc for a check!
>
>*Questions would be raised!
>
>I got a question.. what about that kid?
>
> > There are a few, not many, who-like someone recently alluded to-
>Jesus
> > would have cast the demons out of.
> > If we obey God, we won't need any ritalin.
> >
>
>I ain't qualifyed to prescribe ritalin..
>I'm not a Doc and don't play one on Rangernet..
>I also am not one to Command Jesus to heal!
>
>God has his own plan.
>
>I have seen "Manic Depressed" people get prayed for and claim healing!
>I've seen them refuse to be medicated and lose a great part of the
>quality of life. Unless you are part of the *extreamist fringe..
>
>We work with science and the medical community.
>We do that in good faith and remain belevers in the healing point
>of the Ranger emblem.
>
>
>
> > >From: Duane Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: [RR] Problem child
> > >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:45:45 -0800
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Spirit Rider wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > > In Pioneers we have a boy who is a major problem.
> > > > He don't want to earn advacments or merits. During class
> > > > he talks can't sit still and so on.
> > > > Tonight alone he lost 30 points for ranger of the week for talking,
> > > > ect.. The Sr. Commander has talked to the boy. He has also talked to
> > > > boys parnets. It hasn't seemed to done much good. In Seven months
>time
> > > > the only thing he has learned is the pledge.
> > > > We want the boy in Rangers. However, we want to be able to teach the
> > > > boys without haveing to correct him ever two minutes. We don't know
> > > > what to do. Any advice would be appericated.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Sure-
> > >
> > >Look in yur LTC course for the section where you suspect
> > >"something" abnormal with a boy. Behavior sometimes is
> > >a reflection of deeper trouble that YOU are not qualifyed to
> > >handle. *Council with the Childrens pastor, before you
> > >allow the boy to distroy your Ranger outpost.
> > >
> > >I beleve the Parents are well intentioned, but also
> > >"burned out" and poverty struck for resources.. They
> > >desire their son to fit.. and hope your Outpost will
> > >be the key to knocking off the rough edges!
> > >
> > >*It isn't!
> > >
> > >Public schools would ask for a medical evaluation.
> > >BSA Scouts would require a copy of his latest health
> > >check and look close to see he is takeing any recomended
> > >medication. If behavior was disruptive they would ask a parent
> > >to act as an personal aid to assist him in your meeting,
> > >or the boy remain at home.
> > >
> > >Also- do not touch this boy, scold this boy or allow
> > >anyone to shake him, lecture him or ridicule him. Their
> > >are problems here. *DANGER!
> > >
> > >
> > >I was recently talking with a Doc..
> > >
> > >He told me that recent advances in medication have revolutionized
> > >the treatment of people, in ways that only surgery had impacted
> > >people in the past. That is that a proper treatment can lead
> > >to "giveing" Life back to a tourtured person.
> > >
> > >You.. your church and the parents may beleve medical treatment
> > >is not needed, but be carefull to not *with-hold aid to a child.
> > >
> > >Our duty is first to do right..
> > >
> > >We provide PEACE!
> > >We feed the children-
> > >We cloth the children-
> > >We shelter the children-
> > >We care about the children-
> > >
> > >*And that is ...ministry to CHRIST!
> > >
> > >-=A=-
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