--- Spirit  Rider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All,
> 
> Since the knight theme is "pagan".
> Maybe there shouldn't be an FCF.

Noel..

Yur logic is faulted.

*Never use words as a crowbar to manipulate
another.. the process is very close to chanting
spells to conjer or "beguile" another. That may
be taken wrong, or seen as witchcraft.

If someone steps on yur toes with reguard to
"the knight theam" in RR then go.. and go quick
to have yur fill of "playing knight" on your
time and dime elsewhere. No one should be confused
about "playing FCF" as it isn't a "Game or Sport"

Like I said before.. Buckskins, Tipi's and
Blackpowder are not mentioned in the FCF Pledge.

*Shareing yur Christian Testimony is..

If yur over 18.. the "Ministry changes" from
a Boy view to one of guideing others to their
place in the fell'ership.<G> When you guide..
you step aside...


> I mean after all your frontiersmen drank, smoked,
> cussed, gambled, ect. Not your Christian role model.
> Yet though FCF reaches men and boys. Why?

It ain't becuz of "dressing up"  ..and FCF
is secondary to *everything important<G> It
is done out of *margin or excess after assureing
your youngest Ranger that his expectations for a
quality outpost are being met.

Can yur youngest Pioneer say that of you?
How do you build the bridge to him, with yur
FCF ministry? Do you say.. "Look at me?"

I ask you.. don't your heart desire more?
Don't you want the boy to outpace you?



> FCF is a christian fellowsip.
> If a program works to reach boys for Christ.
> I think we should stand behind it.  This means even
> if the theme is the knights. Its harder to reach
> boys today then it was 30 years ago. Just my .02
> cents.
> 

*Speaking as a 48 year old, who was a boy over
30 years ago, the "thing you presume" may be false.

Leading is never easy, when your desire is to
insist they arrive at a point you construct. The
nature of an individual is to "discover" and
"explore" and the treasure found is then claimed
by that Pioneer or Trailblazer as his own. At the 
start, a child needs to find some motivation. FCF
can help him to discover that, but then our greater
goal returns.. *self guided discovery.


You enjoy dressing the part, and want to "belong"
to a group, and that in it'self is not bad.. But
there is so much more we can do to increase the
peace and build up others.

*If we insist that boys enjoy doing what Men do for
sport.. We rip the boys off for those things that
they enjoy, that Men don't anymore or can't because
they have a double x belly or a shrivled brain<G>

I stand in honesty, humbled with both by the way!
-------------------------------------------------

Begin to understand.. the "mediphore" of being
a frontiersman, and let go of the act. It's
2001 and the goal is the future.. We challenge to
increase understanding, and raise the mark higher.

Don't "re-inact" failures or negitives.
Don't sell the boys short.
Don't let yur eyes become sidetracked on trivia..

God Bless, and *I love you!

Cdr.Duane

> Later,
> Noel "Spirit Rider" Bell
> 


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