--- "Jose F. Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To Bob Triphahn:
> I first heard about the new changes during our 2000 Sectional Pow
> Wow. A boy from another outpost (who used to go to our outpost) told me
> that they were going to change the Royal Ranger program and make it more
> like the Boys Scouts.
Here's where good communication could shine the light.. on rumor
and hurt feelings. I for one have been told many upside down
and backward information from RR leadership in Sectional positions.
I've learned to stand "up-wind"<G>
Sometimes, it's like that game we play with the boys of "pass the word"
and what began as shine comes out as mud.
I was shocked and talked to a commander who the
> boy told me had more knowledge about the changes. I remember telling my
> Senior Commander at the time and he even said that he would leave the
> program if they change it.
See.. There is no need for "Oaths" to be sweared..
Royal Ranger history is just rampant with pot holes like this..
Call up the National office and chat untill you are crystal clear!
I eventually found out that they were in
> fact going to change the program on the internet. Finally this year I
> went to a commanders meeting where they showed a power point
> presentation of the new program. I saw things that surprised me like
> the "missionette" colors of the boys new vests.
Trivia...
The outside uniform never was what made us Royal Rangers!
After the meeting I
> talked to the sectional FCF rep. who was disappointed with the changes
> to the FCF program and wished he had attended the national conferences.
So do I<G>.. wish he had attended the NRRC.
Relflect on: "who is in the drivers seat, and are you willing to
be led by your leaders?" If yes.. you are a true "Ready for Anything"
Ranger<G>!!!
> I have gotten the same disappointment from other commanders.
> Don't get me wrong I have nothing against the BSA, I used to be a
> Boy Scouts myself.
Let's not compare or breed confusion.
Scouts are "Reverent, and respect others faith's and customs"
Rangers have no such doctrine.
However one thing I liked about the Royal Ranger
> program was how different and unique it was compared to the Boy Scouts.
> I felt the RR had a more organized look and structure compared to the
> BSA. And most importantly it is centered around Christ with emphasis on
> Christian teaching and living. The purpose of the Royal Ranger is to
> reach, teach, and keep boys for Christ, this is the main difference
> between us and the BSA.
Negitive..
The main difference lays with mission.
BSA has as it's goal to build Character,Physical fitness and Citizenship.
BSA promotes a boys duty to God as a requirement, but expressed in the
participation in his Church. BSA does not endorce any one denomination,
but wants all Scouts to respect the faith's of all Scouts.
RR echo's this with the four Gold points.. 4 ways a boy grows. We used
to beleve in the "Total Boy" for Christ, but now have that mixed with
"the total program is about Christ"
(*Forgive my bluntness)
I as a Christian will agree with any changes if
> they will bring more to Christ. I feel the national office failed to
> proof exactly how removing what made the RR program majorly different
> from the Boy Scouts will accomplish this. Now we have no unique program
> to offer unsaved kids. If they had to pick between two programs that are
> very similar, except one is a "Christian Boy Scouts" they will most
> likely pick the secular version.
*This sounds like Royal Rangers needs to be defended for some reason?
I've talked with many Scouters who do not understand why we would
refrain from joining Scouts, except that we must hold a simular
position's akin to the LDS church.<G> In truth.. we do!
The current NewsWeek has on it's cover a Scout, and while the story is
blantent propoganda and media frenzie trying to puch a perverted agenda...
The statistics show that Christian churches sponser more Scout Troops
than secular institutions. Recently on Rangernet we debated the point of
fellowshiping with others of like faith but different doctrine..
Let it be clear that RRanger doctrine.. is the "difference"
*Not uniform simularities.. Not *Program simularities.. Not
GMA-Eagle simularities... so we are unique, no matter how
"simular" we become.
It's compelling to see whay the AoG would want it's own program,
but do not think that BSA is in competition with RR.. They are not!
The original RR program had more
> intrigue and had other features that would attract unsaved kids. Another
> concern is what happens if we get a new national commander and he
> decides to change everything again (Low income churches can't tolerate
> this). What really needs to change is the command structure of the
> national office one with checks and balances and will have more
> involvement from churches when such decisions are made.
Here we go messing with the national Staff again..
*They are tasked with a sticky situation of bridgeing a fellowship
of pesky critters with a pastoral mandate for change...
I say they are doing a mighty-fine job!
They do not need us to be confused, stressed or needlessly
upset! What they need us to do.. is keep makeing the main
thing the main thing! (smile Clint<G>) ...and with God's help,
Do our best!
Duane -=*=-
God Bless!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Triphahn
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [RR] The New RR program
>
>
> Jose,
>
> At first I was skeptical of the changes. As I listen to what is in
> store I became excited. Why? The changes in teaching methods, especially
> for those of us with few leaders and small outposts. Plug a new boy in
> where you are and if he wants to do the work you have already done then
> he goes back and completes it on his own. How many times have you as a
> commander been frustrated with thinking you've got all your boys on the
> same page and then a new recruit comes in and he has to start from
> scratch, upsetting the whole game plan.
>
> Patches for the merits did seem to be a bit much to me at first.
> Especially since you could not wear them on the uniform. But, since the
> Ranger can wear colored class B ribbons on the uniform there is nothing
> to say that you do not buy the patches and only stick with the ribbons.
> Merit patches will be in the $0.69 range. Merit ribbons cost $1.95 each,
> not including the bar to hold them. Vests can be made inexpensively.
> Make a Ranger project out of it.
>
> Question for you. How did you hear about the new changes, as well as
> the commanders you have spoken to who do not like them? (And what's
> wrong with wearing a American flag on our uniform? I think it's a great
> idea, Boy Scouts having them or not :-)
>
> God Bless,
>
> Bob Triphahn
> Sr. Cmdr. O/P 312
> Victory Church
> St. Clair, Mo.
>
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