--- clint grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of logic, I do not understand yours or any of this rambling.
> Please explain, in simple terms (like you spell).
Spell'n has never been a measure of ethics on Rangernet before..
Look at any FCF handbook and discover the joy of "Palaver'n" and
also go back to the Rangernet arcive to see how it has been used
effectively in the past as a tool.
Are you say'n..
Spell'n is now your mark in the sand fer Respect?
I was in the Who's Who
> among American High School Students for being in the top 5 percentile,
> but I cannot make heads or tails out of 90% of what you say...
Goes to show what 'learn'n will do fer yah..
Did you earn that honor to Lord it over us?
Is that a tool to manipulate status?
Is that something that I should consider important?
The "I" you speak of is unimportant.(*Re: Sonny Green FCF VP)
You as a "expert" or in the top percintile of brainpower are secondary
to the presumptions of your youngest Ranger boy. If your Ranger comes,
and pledges to become a Royal Ranger.. then only what he pledges is
his bond. So far, (The Ranger Pledge) it's a "Generic" reflection on
his duty: "with God's help"
I object to the "psudo-christian" culture that is forced on the boys
where we fear the "Boogieman and his music" when in fact.. He's under
our feet.
IS THAT AGREEABLE AND UNDERSTOOD?
I'm shine'n the light on the Code...
Spiritual- He prays, reads the Bible and whitnesses..
THAT's IT! *No more-no less...
-----------------------------
Do not add a thought,phrase or policy.
*It don't say that he bucks at his College instructor,
runs to the Dean to plead his "upset" at being presented
a Harry Potter book to read in a Lit. class. The moral
high ground is higher than that. When we introduce "sheltered"
folks to the world we see that what we did in holding them
aside, is to retard their wisdom in matters such as this, so
that any form of "art" contrary to a cloused society's views
is seen as "sinfull". Many of our ranger kids are home schooled.
I'm saying that's a fine way to "shelter" a child for time..
but it sure don't help when they enter a compareitive religions
class or a Sociology class in College.
I heard you say that the Christian student should never compromise..
*Is this a call to teach pro-active social protest in public schools?
*Are you saying that only a right wing conservitive view of art is
tolerable under the US Constitution? *Why Harry Potter books?
Why not "Alice in Wonderland" or "Wizard of Oz?"
*Again.. Is the gulf such in this culture that we should teach
our charges to use social protest to bind the hands of Public school
instruction?
am I the
> only one? Did I do too many drugs as a child? Fry my brain? Go to la-la
> land and la a little too long?
NOPE! Many share yur opinion and agree with you...
You'll find many willing to stand in a circle and give you an amen.
>
> Or is your logic just a little too high for me?
>
Who can say, amigo..
However I'm right there on the road next to the Cow Pie<G>
> CLEAN would be the clear example put forth here, to answer your
> question. Clean in body, MIND, and speech.
>
I was think'n pard.. 'bout COURTEOUS and COURAGEIOUS..
He politely considers yur criticizum.. and bravely stands
fer whats right even in a stiff wind of "Christianpolitical
correctness"
*course.. I could be all wet<G>
-=*=-
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andy of Mooseberry
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: clint grant; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: [RR] Question
>
>
> --- clint grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Stephan,
> >
> > You CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT read this book or condone the reading
> > thereof and still be in God's will, according to the Word. It says to
> > flee the very appearance of evil. If the Harry Potter series does not
> > appear this way to you, I would humbly suggest that you spend some
> time
> > with your Maker. That goes double for the dunce on here who said this
> is
> > a good read.
>
> *One time I walked up to a circle of Commanders at Powwow who
> began to talk about how important it is to prevent Women to
> camp as equals to Men, before the "boys"...
>
> The circle responded with "amen..."
>
> What I want to know is there any room for Freedom of speech
> and thought when such "presumed logic" is stated so forcefully?
>
> In an extream... speaking out against others, and assumeing
> agreement my be a form of co-ersion.. or political beguilement
> leading to social manipulation equal to conjureing a desired
> outcome.
>
> Such activities are in fact, very simular to witchcraft.
>
> *What point of the Ranger Code are you holding up?
>
> -=*=-
>
>
> This book, and some of the opinions in regards to it, are
> > examples of the moral decay that is even pervading the church. A
> friend
> > of mine spoke to a woman on a plane who told him that her pastor
> advised
> > her to have an affair. Said maybe it would give her husband a wake-up
> > call. Jesus was tougher on sin than anyone, yet never judged anyone.
> > There IS a difference. The world is not a misunderstood friend, it is
> > your ENEMY. It HATES you. Why on earth you people defend it so much
> I'll
> > never understand.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Stefan Fischer
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:27 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Re: [RR] Question
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > > John, If Josh feels strongly that he should not read the Harry
> Potter
> > books
> >
> > One of my brother's friends who is a professor at an AoG theological
> > seminary once said: 'Only by reading you will find out what is not
> worth
> > being read.'
> >
> > > On another note - why is it that several on this list are determined
> > to
> > > change opinions of those who feel things are ungodly?
> >
> > My favourite christian band had the following song on one of their
> CDs:
> >
> >
> > Everybody lokk there's a new bandwagon in town
> > Hop on board and let the wind carry you around
> > Seems there's not enough to keep us busy 'till the Lord comes back
> > Don Quixote's got to have another windmill to attack
> >
> > Another Witch Hunt looking for evil wherever we can find it
> > Off on a tangent, hope the Lord won't mind it
> > Another Witch Hunt, takin' a break from all our Gospel labor
> > On a crusade but we forgot our saber
> >
> > There's a new way to spend all our energies
> > We're up in arms instead of down on our knees
> > Walkin' over dollars trying to find another dime
> > Never mind the souls 'caus we really haven't got the time
> >
> > So send out the dogs and tally ho
> > Before we sleep tonight we got miles to go
> > No one is safe, no stone is left unturned
> > And we won't stop 'till somebody gets burned
> > Brothers
> >
> >
> > I don't want to judge the Harry Potter books, because I have never
> read
> > them. The problem I see is that this is the same with most people that
> > judge
> > them to be ungodly. Most people I have heard talking about the dangers
> > in
> > Harry Potter (yes, it is the same over here in Germany) had to admit
> > they
> > knew about that from a book/from another person... This is what I
> would
> > call
> > a 'Witch Hunt' (how matching...).
> >
> > > YOU have no idea what convictions God has placed in the lives of
> > OTHERS
> > This may be right, but you will have to admit that there is some other
> > guy
> > that might also be placing convictions in people's lives, for example
> > wanting them to start witch hunts like these.
> >
> > > It is possible that Josh and John have a personal conviction about
> > reading
> > > certain books (doesn't matter if the books are Harry Potter or Hardy
> > Boys)
> > > so they should live by their convictions.
> >
> > One can also read a book in a critical way (to know whether it is
> worth
> > being read or not (see above)).
> >
> > > If a discussion on the books is warranted - great! Answer John's
> > question
> > > - without judgment and discuss the books in a separate e-mail.
> Let's
> > try
> > > to help each other before we jump on the opinion bandwagon.
> >
> > I hope it was helpful and without judgement (I deleted a part I
> thought
> > to
> > be somewhat judging), if not please forgive me...
> >
> > Always prepared for Jesus.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Stefan Fischer (Fani)
> > Pioneer-Commander, OP #78 Moetzingen/Germany
> > http://www.royal-ranger.com
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
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