Y'all,
Hey there please forgive me, I don't know who sent out the e-mail about how that I mention
how Christian students shouldn';t compromise and have sociatve rebellion or something. Sorry I
couldn't find that sentence know. I never mention how that Christian students should rebel and stuff. I
am saying is that, okay lets look at the bible. It is God word, what does God word say? Know for me yes
if I was forced to read the Harry potter book, I would see how to see if I can read another book. For that
guys I would put this with God word. I never read the Harry Potter book, however any book that talks
about witch craft, the authour is putting Christian down and how they live. To me that isn't a book I want
to read. That is my opion, I will end with this. I feel that so many times people have compromise there
beliefs. I seen this many times, how that was for back in the apostle days, but not ourrs. Lets quit
compromsing what we belive is right and wrong. Lets start sticking to the word of God.
John
PS: I also not being rude, part of me wish I never asked. i just wanted to know how Josh can do about
this class and the book. I see some post where people are bashing others. If I bash anyone or my e-
mail is not where how Jesus would type. Please forgive me
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----- Original Copy -------
>Subject: Re: Re: [RR] Question
>Date: 08/24/2001 2:22 PM
>From: "clint grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
----- Original Message ---
-- From: Andy of
Mooseberry Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 2:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [RR] Question
--- clint grant
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of logic, I do not understand yours or any of
this rambling.
> Please explain, in simple terms (like you spell).
Spell'n has
never been a measure of ethics on Rangernet before..Neither is it
now....
Look at any FCF handbook and discover the joy of "Palaver'n" and
also go b
ack to the Rangernet arcive to see how it has been used
effectively in the past as a
tool.
Are you say'n..
Spell'n is now your mark in the sand fer Respect?You're way off base...
I was in the Who's
Who
> among American High School Students for being in the top 5 percentile,
> but I
cannot make heads or tails out of 90% of what you say...
Goes to show what 'learn'n will do
fer yah..
Did you earn that honor to Lord it over us?
Is that a tool to manipulate status?
Is that something that I should consider important?
The "I" you speak of is unimportant.
(*Re: Sonny Green FCF VP)
You as a "expert" or in the top percintile of brainpower are
secondary
to the presumptions of your youngest Ranger boy. If your Ranger comes,
and
pledges to become a Royal Ranger.. then only what he pledges is
his bond. So far, (The Ranger
Pledge) it's a "Generic" reflection on
his duty: "with God's help"
I object
to the "psudo-christian" culture that is forced on the boys
where we fear the "Boogieman and his
music" when in fact.. He's under
our feet.
IS THAT AGREEABLE AND UNDERSTOOD?
...and out of line. You have misunderstood.
I'm shine'n the
light on the Code...
Spiritual- He prays, reads the Bible and whitnesses..
THAT's
IT! *No more-no less...
-----------------------------
Do not add a thought,phrase or
policy.
*It don't say that he bucks at his College instructor,
runs to the Dean to plead
his "upset" at being presented
a Harry Potter book to read in a Lit. class. The moral
high
ground is higher than that. When we introduce "sheltered"
folks to the world we see that what we
did in holding them
aside, is to retard their wisdom in matters such as this, so
that any form
of "art" contrary to a cloused society's views
is seen as "sinfull". Many of our ranger kids are home
schooled.
I'm saying that's a fine way to "s
helter" a child for time..
but it sure don't help when they enter a compareitive religions
class or
a Sociology class in College.
I heard you say that the Christian student should never
compromise..
*Is this a call to teach pro-active social protest in public schools?
*Are you
saying that only a right wing conservitive view of art is
tolerable under the US Constitution? *Why
Harry Potter books?
Why not "Alice in Wonderland" or "Wizard of
Oz?"
*Again.. Is the gulf such in this culture that we should teach
our charges to
use social protest to bind the hands of Public school
instruction?
am I
the
> only one? Did I do too many drugs as a child? Fry my brain? Go to la-la
> land and
la a little too long?
NOPE! Many share yur opinion and agree with
you...
You'll find many willing to stand in a circle and give you an
amen.
>
> Or is your logic just a little too high for me?
>
Who can
say, a
migo..
However I'm right there on the road next to the Cow Pie<G>
> CLEAN
would be the clear example put forth here, to answer your
> question. Clean in body, MIND, and
speech.
>
I was think'n pard.. 'bout COURTEOUS and
COURAGEIOUS..
He politely considers yur criticizum.. and bravely stands
fer whats right
even in a stiff wind of "Christianpolitical
correctness"
*course.. I could be all
wet<G>
-=*=-
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andy of
Mooseberry
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: clint grant;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: [RR] Question
>
>
> --- clint
grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Stephan,
> >
>
> You CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT read this book or condone the
reading
> > thereof and still be in God's will, according to the Word. It says to
> >
flee the very ap
pearance of evil. If the Harry Potter series does not
> > appear this way to you, I would humbly
suggest that you spend some
> time
> > with your Maker. That goes double for the
dunce on here who said this
> is
> > a good read.
>
> *One time I
walked up to a circle of Commanders at Powwow who
> began to talk about how important it is
to prevent Women to
> camp as equals to Men, before the "boys"...
>
> The circle
responded with "amen..."
>
> What I want to know is there any room for Freedom of
speech
> and thought when such "presumed logic" is stated so forcefully?
>
> In
an extream... speaking out against others, and assumeing
> agreement my be a form of co-
ersion.. or political beguilement
> leading to social manipulation equal to conjureing a
desired
> outcome.
>
> Such activities are in fact, very simular to
witchcraft.
>
> *What point of the Ranger Code are y
ou holding up?
>
> -=*=-
>
>
> This book, and some of the
opinions in regards to it, are
> > examples of the moral decay that is even pervading the
church. A
> friend
> > of mine spoke to a woman on a plane who told him that her
pastor
> advised
> > her to have an affair. Said maybe it would give her husband a
wake-up
> > call. Jesus was tougher on sin than anyone, yet never judged anyone.
>
> There IS a difference. The world is not a misunderstood friend, it is
> > your ENEMY. It
HATES you. Why on earth you people defend it so much
> I'll
> > never
understand.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Stefan
Fischer
> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:27 PM
> > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Re: [RR] Question
> >
> >
Hi,
> >
> >
> > > John, If Josh feels strongly that he should no
t read the Harry
> Potter
> > books
> >
> > One of my brother's
friends who is a professor at an AoG theological
> > seminary once said: 'Only by reading you
will find out what is not
> worth
> > being read.'
> >
> > > On
another note - why is it that several on this list are determined
> > to
> > > change
opinions of those who feel things are ungodly?
> >
> > My favourite christian band
had the following song on one of their
> CDs:
> >
> >
> >
Everybody lokk there's a new bandwagon in town
> > Hop on board and let the wind carry you
around
> > Seems there's not enough to keep us busy 'till the Lord comes back
> >
Don Quixote's got to have another windmill to attack
> >
> > Another Witch Hunt
looking for evil wherever we can find it
> > Off on a tangent, hope the Lord won't mind
it
> > Another Witch
Hunt, takin' a break from all our Gospel labor
> > On a crusade but we forgot our
saber
> >
> > There's a new way to spend all our energies
> > We're up
in arms instead of down on our knees
> > Walkin' over dollars trying to find another
dime
> > Never mind the souls 'caus we really haven't got the time
> >
> >
So send out the dogs and tally ho
> > Before we sleep tonight we got miles to go
>
> No one is safe, no stone is left unturned
> > And we won't stop 'till somebody gets
burned
> > Brothers
> >
> >
> > I don't want to judge the Harry
Potter books, because I have never
> read
> > them. The problem I see is that this is
the same with most people that
> > judge
> > them to be ungodly. Most people I
have heard talking about the dangers
> > in
> > Harry Potter (yes, it is the same over
here in Germany) had to admit
>
> they
> > knew about that from a book/from another person... This is what I
>
would
> > call
> > a 'Witch Hunt' (how matching...).
> >
> > >
YOU have no idea what convictions God has placed in the lives of
> > OTHERS
> >
This may be right, but you will have to admit that there is some other
> > guy
> > that
might also be placing convictions in people's lives, for example
> > wanting them to start witch
hunts like these.
> >
> > > It is possible that Josh and John have a personal
conviction about
> > reading
> > > certain books (doesn't matter if the books are
Harry Potter or Hardy
> > Boys)
> > > so they should live by their
convictions.
> >
> > One can also read a book in a critical way (to know whether it
is
> worth
> > being read or not (see above)).
> >
> > > If a
discussion on the books
is warranted - great! Answer John's
> > question
> > > - without judgment
and discuss the books in a separate e-mail.
> Let's
> > try
> > > to help
each other before we jump on the opinion bandwagon.
> >
> > I hope it was helpful
and without judgement (I deleted a part I
> thought
> > to
> > be somewhat
judging), if not please forgive me...
> >
> > Always prepared for Jesus.
>
>
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Stefan Fischer (Fani)
> >
Pioneer-Commander, OP #78 Moetzingen/Germany
> > http://www.royal-ranger.com
>
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