Of course on that note.... I was always one of the kids who sold almost nothing in the school fund raisers.
Yet When I got older and learned to talk to people better and sell Its now paritally how I make my money. Now 3 years out of high school I make 24k+ entry level all becuase I knwo howto sell and God blessed me with being able to learn about computers. So teaching kids howto sell is always a good idea. No matter what they do in life they will always be trying to sell something. even if its just selling themsleves during a job interview. Matthew Keathley On 7/17/05, Matthew Keathley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well. let me just share my own little expriance. > > I didn't join the boy scouts because my family didn't have the money. > I didn't play football/soccer/basketball all becuase we did not have > the money. I was not even aware of the Royal Rangers then. > > I grew up where $20 made the difference if we had enough food for the > week or not. Food stamps/Gov't assitance is NOT enough. and I didn't > grow up years ago. I'm barly grown as it is, I graduated high school > only 3 years ago. > > So asking the parents to pay $100 up front and they get the money back > if the kids sell enough wouldn't work well. > > Matthew Keathley > > > > On 7/16/05, DJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Funding raising and outpost budgets I think this is a great topic for > > RangerNet! > > Aside for when I was Senior Commander at the Naval Base Chapel in Yokosuka > > Japan with a very large government funded outpost, I have had my most > > succesful experiences with handling an outpost budget when the church agreed > > to give me $25.00 per boy per quarter. > > As my outpost grew, so did my budget. If the outpost shrank, so did the > > budget. (as it should) > > A boy "counted" if he attended at least 50% of the outpost meetings the > > previous quarter. > > This $100 a year credit I received per boy made up 40% of my overall budget. > > We raised the rest through fund raisers. > > (http://www.rangerdj.com/fundraising.asp) > > >From the budget, each outpost age group received quarterly funds based upon > > the size of the group to purchase crafts, snacks, materials etc... > > > > If you're looking for a good idea on how I handle my outpost budgets, go to. > > http://www.rangerdj.com/index.asp?info=startupcosts > > > > A short note about fund raisers. > > If you are looking to raise a couple hundred bucks, DO NOT hold a fund > > raiser, unless you are also considering the social value of the event. The > > best solution to raising a couple hundred bucks is simply to pass the hat. I > > would rather put $50.00 in a hat than spend the considerable amount of time > > and effort it takes to organize even the simpliest of fundraisers to raise a > > couple hundred dollars. > > > > By far the easiest fund raiser I have ever had has been selling grocery > > store coupon books. They cost me $1.00, the boys sell them for $5.00. The > > book usually has a five dollar coupon in the front! I award prizes to boys > > who sell over a hundred. (One go getter RangerKid sold 350+ one year, and > > over 400 the next year! I'll do the math for ya. $1400/$1600 profit!) > > Sometimes you have boys who of course don't sell anything... to solve this I > > have often thought about asking the parents to "buy" the first 20 books. > > ($100.00) then they get their money back when they get their boy to sell the > > books. :-) > > > > DJ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:27 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [RR] Funding. Real Purpose. > > > > > > > > I was wondering how much your outpost receives each year in support from > > your church? > > > > What would be an average? > > > > Our outpost ran anywhere from 15 thousand a year to 4500 hundred a year. > > We > > probably averaged 6500 a year over a 8 year pierod and that was doing the > > old program where we gave the boy a uniform after his third consecutive > > meeting attendance. Yes we had a few that never came back...but we had a > > lot that did and wore those uniforms out wearing them each and every wed > > night. Those were the good ole days. We didnt have a budget we were > > just > > told to run the program the way it was supposed to be ran. The boys had > > their handbooks and recieved their medals and merits most often right when > > they earned them. > > > > We had a staff of 7 outpost council and 25 leaders and averaged some 30 > > outtings a year. > > > > Our new pastor took our budget and graciously cut it to five hundred per > > year. I stayed as Sr. Commander for 6 months. That was 3 years ago. He > > did this to all the ministries I was told. The RR were told they could > > work > > and would have to raise their own funds. It's just about killed the > > outpost. They are almost back to bible drill and kick ball. Its hard > > seeing the resources just drying up and blowing away. I have remainded > > faithful to the outtings, and actvities but am not involved in the weekly > > meetings. > > > > The Pastor is the key to a successful RR program. I agree. This pastor > > from > > the good ole days has taken another church in our Section that barely had > > the money to buy toilet paper and is about to build a new bigger sanctuary > > for their church. Their Royal Rangers will soon take off and grow as > > well. > > > > In our Church were starting to hord trash bags. > > > > All these covenants that these pastors are trying to get new members to > > signup and pay for are as vain as the vain repetitions of prayers. It's a > > waste of time and if these pastors would learn that God gives the blessing > > and stirs the hearts of people to give and put their faith once again in > > God > > providing that he will provide and bring the harvest in both money and > > souls. We are not living in the old testement law neither do I believe > > the > > chruch is intitled to 10% of my income. They no longer are taking care of > > the sick and widows. The government does that... and I am giving 35% of > > my > > income to uncle sam right now. > > > > Its very obvious to me where my source comes from. Putting my faith in > > vices and other means is a total waste of time. > > > > There should be enough fodder here to keep you guys busy for a long time. > > > > Mark Jones > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The Golden Rule is my daily rule. > > > > To send mail to everyone on the RangerNet mailing list, send it to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only list members may post. > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > > http://lists.rangernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rangernet > > > _______________________________________________ The Golden Rule is my daily rule. 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