On 2/14/12 7:21 PM, "Bill Donaldson" <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Ate Douma <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 02/14/2012 03:31 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>>
>>> I have created a draft of the graduation board resolution [1] and would
>>> like to get feedback from the community regarding the proposal;
>>> specifically, the wording of the description&  scope.  Ate made a great
>>> point that we need to ensure it is narrow enough that we can execute
>>>against
>>> it, but broad enough to include future use cases.  The rest of the
>>>template
>>> was filled out with the result of PPMC discussions held on
>>>rave-private@
>>>
>> Thanks for drafting up the charter Matt.
>>
>> The crucial part of the charter we should agree upon is indeed the
>> description of the *scope* of the project.
>>
>> The proposed text currently is:
>>
>>  [..] "a widget-based, web-and-social mashup and user experience
>>platform"
>> [..]
>>
>> While definitely a good description for the scope, I would still like to
>> propose a very minor but possible important change, like this:
>>
>>  "a widgets, web-and-social mashup and user experience platform"
>
>I believe widget-based would be more inclusive than 'widget'  Widget
>*might* imply W3C widget.
>
>>
>> The reason for this slight change is that saying "a widget-based, [...]"
>> might be interpreted as if Rave at least assumes/requires widgets to be
>> used.
>>
>As a heavy user of Rave, we count on it supporting Widgets.  Removing
>Widget from the scope would narrow the scope of the project and be a
>limiter of our future use of the platform.
>
>It might be better to be more specific that on the intent of widgets
>are optional.  Sorry I don't have better wording...it is a suggestion
>if someone was so inclined.
>
>> I *think* (but this really is about semantics and grammar, in a
>>non-native
>> language for me), my proposed change makes it more optional to use
>>widgets,
>> as just one possible feature of the platform.
>>
>> IMO 'a web-and-social mashup and user experience platform' (thus without
>> using/requiring widgets) also very much fits the bill for Rave.
>>
>
>perhaps a change of the clause 'web-and-social mashup and user
>experience platform'
>
>to 'web-and-social mashup user experience platform' The 'and' never
>did much for me but I'm an engineer not an English major

I like some form of what you are suggesting.  I was searching for a way to
fit all of those words in the same description and slipped the and in
there. 

>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Regards, Ate
>>
>>> Once we have an agreed upon resolution, we can call a community VOTE
>>>for
>>> Graduation and proceed with the process.
>>>
>>> Let's get ready to graduate!
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> [1] :
>>> 
>>>https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12514364/graduation_res
>>>olution.txt
>>>
>>>
>>

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