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You could change "widget-based" to "reusable web component-based".


Marlon


On 2/15/12 8:16 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> +1. The charter needs to be simple and clear, but I wouldn't agonize over 
> precise semantics of all the words, so to me it's good enough the way it is. 
> FWIW, I personally like the -based there (referring to widgets in the general 
> sense), but I would remove the user experience part from the charter as a bit 
> too broad and not very informative, imho.
> 
> "a widgets-based, web-and-social mashup platform"
> 
> My $0.02,
> Hadrian
> 
> On 02/14/2012 09:11 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2/14/12 7:21 PM, "Bill Donaldson"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Ate Douma<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>> On 02/14/2012 03:31 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have created a draft of the graduation board resolution [1] and would
>>>>> like to get feedback from the community regarding the proposal;
>>>>> specifically, the wording of the description&   scope.  Ate made a great
>>>>> point that we need to ensure it is narrow enough that we can execute
>>>>> against
>>>>> it, but broad enough to include future use cases.  The rest of the
>>>>> template
>>>>> was filled out with the result of PPMC discussions held on
>>>>> rave-private@
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks for drafting up the charter Matt.
>>>>
>>>> The crucial part of the charter we should agree upon is indeed the
>>>> description of the *scope* of the project.
>>>>
>>>> The proposed text currently is:
>>>>
>>>>   [..] "a widget-based, web-and-social mashup and user experience
>>>> platform"
>>>> [..]
>>>>
>>>> While definitely a good description for the scope, I would still like to
>>>> propose a very minor but possible important change, like this:
>>>>
>>>>   "a widgets, web-and-social mashup and user experience platform"
>>>
>>> I believe widget-based would be more inclusive than 'widget'  Widget
>>> *might* imply W3C widget.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The reason for this slight change is that saying "a widget-based, [...]"
>>>> might be interpreted as if Rave at least assumes/requires widgets to be
>>>> used.
>>>>
>>> As a heavy user of Rave, we count on it supporting Widgets.  Removing
>>> Widget from the scope would narrow the scope of the project and be a
>>> limiter of our future use of the platform.
>>>
>>> It might be better to be more specific that on the intent of widgets
>>> are optional.  Sorry I don't have better wording...it is a suggestion
>>> if someone was so inclined.
>>>
>>>> I *think* (but this really is about semantics and grammar, in a
>>>> non-native
>>>> language for me), my proposed change makes it more optional to use
>>>> widgets,
>>>> as just one possible feature of the platform.
>>>>
>>>> IMO 'a web-and-social mashup and user experience platform' (thus without
>>>> using/requiring widgets) also very much fits the bill for Rave.
>>>>
>>>
>>> perhaps a change of the clause 'web-and-social mashup and user
>>> experience platform'
>>>
>>> to 'web-and-social mashup user experience platform' The 'and' never
>>> did much for me but I'm an engineer not an English major
>>
>> I like some form of what you are suggesting.  I was searching for a way to
>> fit all of those words in the same description and slipped the and in
>> there.
>>
>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Ate
>>>>
>>>>> Once we have an agreed upon resolution, we can call a community VOTE
>>>>> for
>>>>> Graduation and proceed with the process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's get ready to graduate!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] :
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12514364/graduation_res
>>>>> olution.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
> 
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