On 15 Feb 2012, at 13:34, Marlon Pierce wrote:

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> You could change "widget-based" to "reusable web component-based".

I think widget-based sounds better tbh.
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> Marlon
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> On 2/15/12 8:16 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>> +1. The charter needs to be simple and clear, but I wouldn't agonize over 
>> precise semantics of all the words, so to me it's good enough the way it is. 
>> FWIW, I personally like the -based there (referring to widgets in the 
>> general sense), but I would remove the user experience part from the charter 
>> as a bit too broad and not very informative, imho.
>> 
>> "a widgets-based, web-and-social mashup platform"
>> 
>> My $0.02,
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> On 02/14/2012 09:11 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/14/12 7:21 PM, "Bill Donaldson"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Ate Douma<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>> On 02/14/2012 03:31 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have created a draft of the graduation board resolution [1] and would
>>>>>> like to get feedback from the community regarding the proposal;
>>>>>> specifically, the wording of the description&   scope.  Ate made a great
>>>>>> point that we need to ensure it is narrow enough that we can execute
>>>>>> against
>>>>>> it, but broad enough to include future use cases.  The rest of the
>>>>>> template
>>>>>> was filled out with the result of PPMC discussions held on
>>>>>> rave-private@
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for drafting up the charter Matt.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The crucial part of the charter we should agree upon is indeed the
>>>>> description of the *scope* of the project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The proposed text currently is:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  [..] "a widget-based, web-and-social mashup and user experience
>>>>> platform"
>>>>> [..]
>>>>> 
>>>>> While definitely a good description for the scope, I would still like to
>>>>> propose a very minor but possible important change, like this:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  "a widgets, web-and-social mashup and user experience platform"
>>>> 
>>>> I believe widget-based would be more inclusive than 'widget'  Widget
>>>> *might* imply W3C widget.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The reason for this slight change is that saying "a widget-based, [...]"
>>>>> might be interpreted as if Rave at least assumes/requires widgets to be
>>>>> used.
>>>>> 
>>>> As a heavy user of Rave, we count on it supporting Widgets.  Removing
>>>> Widget from the scope would narrow the scope of the project and be a
>>>> limiter of our future use of the platform.
>>>> 
>>>> It might be better to be more specific that on the intent of widgets
>>>> are optional.  Sorry I don't have better wording...it is a suggestion
>>>> if someone was so inclined.
>>>> 
>>>>> I *think* (but this really is about semantics and grammar, in a
>>>>> non-native
>>>>> language for me), my proposed change makes it more optional to use
>>>>> widgets,
>>>>> as just one possible feature of the platform.
>>>>> 
>>>>> IMO 'a web-and-social mashup and user experience platform' (thus without
>>>>> using/requiring widgets) also very much fits the bill for Rave.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> perhaps a change of the clause 'web-and-social mashup and user
>>>> experience platform'
>>>> 
>>>> to 'web-and-social mashup user experience platform' The 'and' never
>>>> did much for me but I'm an engineer not an English major
>>> 
>>> I like some form of what you are suggesting.  I was searching for a way to
>>> fit all of those words in the same description and slipped the and in
>>> there.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Ate
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Once we have an agreed upon resolution, we can call a community VOTE
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Graduation and proceed with the process.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Let's get ready to graduate!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12514364/graduation_res
>>>>>> olution.txt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
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