Hi,

I did it like MikeB except that  I updated the entire set of codelocked
files to avoid giving the client a hint where the problem might be.

B H Hix
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> [Original Message]
> From: Atrix Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RBASE-L Mailing List)>
> Date: 7/29/03 12:02:06 AM
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Salem, Ohio Warning
>
> that is awesome :P
>
> very smart move
>
> howd you remotely set the date to extend?
>
> did you have some kind of remote access to all the systems?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B H Hix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:02 PM
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Salem, Ohio Warning
>
>
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > Just read your problems with collecting.  I had this problem in the
early
> > 90s with some of my customers.  I solved it by doing the following:
> >
> > I added a small codelocked routine to the code that caused the whole
> system
> > to not run past a set date.  The customers did not know how it worked or
> > where it was.  And since the applications was a financial ones, the
> correct
> > date from the computer date for all entries was necessary.
> >
> > Also my contract with them contained a clause saying the software quit
> > working when payments were overdue and would be corrected the same day
the
> > payment was credited to my bank.
> >
> > For those not paying, I would get a call the day they found the system
not
> > working.   I always got promptly paid AND I updated their system to make
> it
> > continue to work.
> >
> > I rarely had to have this happen twice to the same company.
> >
> >
> >
> > B H Hix
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Jim Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RBASE-L Mailing List)>
> > > Date: 7/28/03 12:54:44 PM
> > > Subject: [RBASE-L] - Salem, Ohio Warning
> > >
> > > Good Day to all:
> > >
> > > I just wanted to share a thought with you, giving you warning about a
> firm
> > > in Salem, Ohio.  If you are a RB developer, and receive a call from a
> > > company in Salem, Ohio (using R:Base), please give me a call to see if
> > they
> > > are the firm that recently 'burnt' me for almost $4,000.00. My friend,
> > > Glenn Sippola, warned me two years ago about this account, and how
they
> > > were extremely slow paying.
> > >
> > > But, I thought how could this be, I had recently met with the
president,
> > > and the employees, and they were soooooooo   nice, and needed my help.
> > > Sorry, Glenn, I didn't take your word more seriously.
> > >
> > > Two and one half years ago, they seemed like such a nice firm, and we
> > > agreed to do business on a handshake (even though I normally have all
> new
> > > clients sign a contract).   I thought, these people are so nice that
we
> > > don't even need a contract.    We started off great, but the ending is
> yet
> > > to be determined.    Their staff is so nice,  and so easy to work
with.
> > > I even made mods as recent as three months ago when they were in
> trouble,
> > > went the database went down, and the girls called and said they needed
> > help
> > > immediately.     The controller said they were sorry for not paying
the
> > > bills sooner (haven't paid a dime in the last year and a half) but
that
> > > they would pay in full over the next two months, if only I would help
> them
> > > in this time of need.
> > >
> > > Not wanting to see anyone with their system 'down', and after the
> pleading
> > > from the controller and staff, and after they agreed to pay the
> invoices,
> > > I said YES, I would fix the problem.    In two days, I had them up and
> > > running again.         Now,  it is three months later, and they have
not
> > > paid one dime.    After 24 years, this is the first time this has
> > happened.
> > >   Maybe it's a sign of the times.
> > >
> > > So, my message is two-fold:
> > >
> > > 1. Don't agree to do work without a contract.   No matter how nice
they
> > > seem.......you could get burnt.
> > > 2. Don't do any RB work for M_____-H_________, Inc. from Salem, Ohio.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps someone else understand why we need to get the
contracts
> > > signed.  Get it signed to protect yourself.
> > > Don't let what happened to me, happen to you.   My only hope is that
if
> > > their system goes down again, and they need help, they will have to
pay
> > all
> > > current invoices before I do any additional work.    IF they ever get
my
> > > invoices paid, they will be on a PRE-PAID BASIS with me.
> > >
> > > COVER THE BASES!!!! AND PLEASE BE FOREWARNED.!
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ========================================
> > > Jim Schmitt
> > >     Ohio Software Services
> > > 2211 Lake Club Drive
> > >        Columbus, Oh   43232
> > > Phone 1-614-863-1850
> > > Fax     1-614-863-0325
> > > E-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ========================================
> >

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