Why not be upfront about it. Do it like a shareware program or something like 
that tell the customer that the program is going to disable on this date. Seem 
a little sneeky to me. Maybe Microsoft could take some tips from you and put 
some bugs in their software to!!!

On 31 Jul 2003 at 17:15, B H Hix wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I did it like MikeB except that  I updated the entire set of codelocked
> files to avoid giving the client a hint where the problem might be.
> 
> B H Hix
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Atrix Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RBASE-L Mailing List)>
> > Date: 7/29/03 12:02:06 AM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Salem, Ohio Warning
> >
> > that is awesome :P
> >
> > very smart move
> >
> > howd you remotely set the date to extend?
> >
> > did you have some kind of remote access to all the systems?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "B H Hix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:02 PM
> > Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Salem, Ohio Warning
> >
> >
> > > Hi Jim,
> > >
> > > Just read your problems with collecting.  I had this problem in the
> early
> > > 90s with some of my customers.  I solved it by doing the following:
> > >
> > > I added a small codelocked routine to the code that caused the whole
> > system
> > > to not run past a set date.  The customers did not know how it worked or
> > > where it was.  And since the applications was a financial ones, the
> > correct
> > > date from the computer date for all entries was necessary.
> > >
> > > Also my contract with them contained a clause saying the software quit
> > > working when payments were overdue and would be corrected the same day
> the
> > > payment was credited to my bank.
> > >
> > > For those not paying, I would get a call the day they found the system
> not
> > > working.   I always got promptly paid AND I updated their system to make
> > it
> > > continue to work.
> > >
> > > I rarely had to have this happen twice to the same company.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > B H Hix
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Jim Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RBASE-L Mailing List)>
> > > > Date: 7/28/03 12:54:44 PM
> > > > Subject: [RBASE-L] - Salem, Ohio Warning
> > > >
> > > > Good Day to all:
> > > >
> > > > I just wanted to share a thought with you, giving you warning about a
> > firm
> > > > in Salem, Ohio.  If you are a RB developer, and receive a call from a
> > > > company in Salem, Ohio (using R:Base), please give me a call to see if
> > > they
> > > > are the firm that recently 'burnt' me for almost $4,000.00. My friend,
> > > > Glenn Sippola, warned me two years ago about this account, and how
> they
> > > > were extremely slow paying.
> > > >
> > > > But, I thought how could this be, I had recently met with the
> president,
> > > > and the employees, and they were soooooooo   nice, and needed my help.
> > > > Sorry, Glenn, I didn't take your word more seriously.
> > > >
> > > > Two and one half years ago, they seemed like such a nice firm, and we
> > > > agreed to do business on a handshake (even though I normally have all
> > new
> > > > clients sign a contract).   I thought, these people are so nice that
> we
> > > > don't even need a contract.    We started off great, but the ending is
> > yet
> > > > to be determined.    Their staff is so nice,  and so easy to work
> with.
> > > > I even made mods as recent as three months ago when they were in
> > trouble,
> > > > went the database went down, and the girls called and said they needed
> > > help
> > > > immediately.     The controller said they were sorry for not paying
> the
> > > > bills sooner (haven't paid a dime in the last year and a half) but
> that
> > > > they would pay in full over the next two months, if only I would help
> > them
> > > > in this time of need.
> > > >
> > > > Not wanting to see anyone with their system 'down', and after the
> > pleading
> > > > from the controller and staff, and after they agreed to pay the
> > invoices,
> > > > I said YES, I would fix the problem.    In two days, I had them up and
> > > > running again.         Now,  it is three months later, and they have
> not
> > > > paid one dime.    After 24 years, this is the first time this has
> > > happened.
> > > >   Maybe it's a sign of the times.
> > > >
> > > > So, my message is two-fold:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Don't agree to do work without a contract.   No matter how nice
> they
> > > > seem.......you could get burnt.
> > > > 2. Don't do any RB work for M_____-H_________, Inc. from Salem, Ohio.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps someone else understand why we need to get the
> contracts
> > > > signed.  Get it signed to protect yourself.
> > > > Don't let what happened to me, happen to you.   My only hope is that
> if
> > > > their system goes down again, and they need help, they will have to
> pay
> > > all
> > > > current invoices before I do any additional work.    IF they ever get
> my
> > > > invoices paid, they will be on a PRE-PAID BASIS with me.
> > > >
> > > > COVER THE BASES!!!! AND PLEASE BE FOREWARNED.!
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ========================================
> > > > Jim Schmitt
> > > >     Ohio Software Services
> > > > 2211 Lake Club Drive
> > > >        Columbus, Oh   43232
> > > > Phone 1-614-863-1850
> > > > Fax     1-614-863-0325
> > > > E-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > ========================================
> > >
> 
> 



Victor Timmons  
Tiz's Door Sales, Inc
425-258-2391

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