I agree that Vista was not a good release but it did pave the way for Windows 7
which was a marked improvement over Windows XP, a system that I like a lot.
However, saying that Windows XP runs faster than Windows 7 as the criteria to
call it a better OS is a very simplistic view; MS-DOS would run considerably
faster than both of them but is that really the direction we want to move
towards? In my humble opinion it is not.
The computers we use are undergoing big changes. A few years ago if you wanted
power you needed a desktop and now, even power users rely on laptop and the
trend is moving towards the more touch/visual tablets which now are catching up
with laptops and in many cases replacing them; unfortunately, Win XP is just
not designed for this type of environment. Say what you will about Microsoft
but the more recent releases have been rock solid and whether we like it or not
the end user business market still runs on MS Windows and Linux has just a tiny
fraction of about 1.5% compare to close to 90% for the various flavors of
Windows and close to 10% for Apple OS.
One of the computers I am testing is very low powered Liva Mini PC kit with
miniature Intel BayTrail board with 2 GB or Memory and 32 GB of storage and
runs a full resolution 1080P monitor surprisingly fast; It seems to run the
Internet Browser on Wi-Fi faster than my loaded Dell XPS Win 7 Pro, Core I7
based laptop with a hard connection to the router. As I indicated, it does have
a fresh install of Win 10.
By the way, Linux was announced in late 1991 and released late in 1992 and it
really did not become widely available or popular until the mid-90s, at that
time R:Base was well into the 4.X versions, the 3.0 version was released in
1990, before Linux was even a concept in Linus Torvalds mind. I remember
several R:Base version were released specifically for the OS/2 system and I
remember talk about a release for Unix/Linux, I had a couple of workstations
running Linux in the late 90s and I would have liked to run a version of R:Base
but I am not sure if one was ever officially released…although my memory is not
what it used to be; maybe R:azzak can shed some light.
Javier,
Javier Valencia, PE
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stanfield
Technologies LLC
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 3:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Linux & R:Base
Vista was a bad release of Windows and never seemed stable. On top of that if
it has been on the internet and not installed recently, my guess is that why it
drags (jacked up) which might make Win10 look like it runs better. There are
also 32 bit versions of Win7 & Vista vs 64bit versions designed to take
advantage of the faster processors. Each version of Windows seems to require
more hardware (memory, processors, etc). For example if you take a WinXp
computer and put Windows7 on it using the same hardware, WinXP will run much
faster because it requires less resources. So when you load Win10 on existing
hardware, assuming both are fresh installs (not a junked up 7 or Vista) its not
likely to run as well on same hardware. Honestly, I think each release of
Windows, Microsoft has put another nail in its coffin and opened up other
alternatives such as Macs, Linux and Google Chrome.
It may be to R:Base Technologies benefit to package the software to run on
whichever OS you prefer/use whether Google, Windows, Linux or Mac?
----- Original Message -----
From: Javier Valencia <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 4:02 PM
Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Linux & R:Base
I have used Win 10 on a limited basis so far on a couple of low end computers
and my experience has been “so far” similar to that of Mike’s, very positive;
one of them is a very low end miniature unit with 2GB of memory and 32 GB of on
board SSD storage with a fresh install. The compiled version of R:Base seems to
run faster as do other programs I have tested. I will try upgrading next a
laptop I have that runs Windows Vista and just drags; I believe Win 10 will run
much faster.
Javier,
Javier Valencia, PE
O: 913-829-0888
H: 913-397-9605
C: 913-915-3137
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stanfield
Technologies LLC
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 2:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Linux & R:Base
I agree with the previous post. As a computer tech person, I have NOT been
impressed with Win10. In my computer shop I have several requests to reload
win7 and remove 10. Infact, by default there are settings within 10 that
"seed" itself out to download much like viruses do. It may be better than 8,
but I would never trade it for Win7. Internet performance has also been an
issue where the internet providers are being blamed for internet issues when
infact it is Win10. Microsoft seems desperate to give it away in order to get
people away from 7 for some odd reason.
I agree looking ahead that Linux may be the answer, especially as Linux
improves its ability to install software and its dependancies without a huge
amount of work. PC Linux seems to be one of the platforms that makes this much
easier.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Byerley <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:06 PM
Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Linux & R:Base
I don’t find any of the negatives you mention with Win 10, but I did a virgin
install on the existing hardware I had instead of an upgrade. Most
applications start noticeably quicker over my Win 7 previous.
I even managed to get my old Autocad 2000 (16 year old software) to work on Win
10 without running it in XP virtual machine.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alastair Burr
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Linux & R:Base
The time to move away from Microsoft Windows and change to Linux is beckoning –
I find Windows 10 almost unusable in that it is desperately slow and often
unreliable with automatic updates changing my settings at will.
I have a Linux system running from a flash drive and there seems to be very
little that I do in Windows that I can’t do on this simple installation.
A major consideration however, is running R:Base:
Will it run directly under Linux?
There seems to be ways of running some Windows programs but not all – will
R:Base run in one of these systems?
Presumably there is no problem with a dual boot set up?
Any advice and comments would be welcome,
Regards,
Alastair.
