I think Mr. Crued is putting us on. His last post contradicted his original
post.
I take the listserver, RBase and my profession very seriously. It is the way
that I make my living. The list server is a public medium and it is viewed by
other professionals as well as customers. I am careful of my grammar and
spelling because I know that it is not one of my strong points and that it can
reflect negatively on my professionalism. To me this are serious issues and I
am very zealous about my customers and potential customers. I treat this list
server as a professional developer's tool. A tool that is viewed by developers,
customers and, potential customers. The key word here is CUSTOMERS. To me this
list server is not a place to have fun by posting issues of ridicule or
undermining the confidence in the environment where many of us make a living.
I want to be able to tell any potential customer about the listserver so that
they can get a feeling of the community of developers out there that are ready
to help if he/she does not want my services anymore. Do not kid yourselves, in
the back of every potential customer there is an unanswered question:
What am I going to do after I have INVESTED $$$$$$$$$$ with this guy and he
turns out to be a flake, or dies, or becomes a drug addict???? Unless you can
set at ease those concerns he/she will not use your services and will foolishly
fall in the advertisement trap set up by Microsoft and like a lamb to the
slaughter house will go to Mr. Billy's world. We are all in this together and
unless we stand together in the eyes of our customers and potential customers we
will have NO CUSTOMERS. Without customers I will not be able to do what I
really have fun doing which is, writing database applications.
I am a lucky guy. How many human beings out there can say that they have real
fun at their work? When I read posts written by other developers their personal
enthusiasm and the excitement about their work can be felt through their words
and then I know that I am not alone.
Manuel
"Crued @ Enteract" wrote:
> It is true that the ease of use, and large install base of VB has created a
> large number of what I call "learn vb in 21 days" programmers. During the
> years of the "dot com" thing, companys hired without regard to credentials.
> This diluted the talent pool, and drove demand up because companys had to
> hire 5 people to do the work of 1 real programmer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Brent Skean
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: IF VB IS SO GOOD WHY ARE YOU USING RBASE!
>
> >3) If it weren't for VB we wouldn't have the lack of quality of
> application
> >developers we have today.
>
> I read this as:
>
> Because we have VB, we lack quality developers....probably not what you were
> trying to say. Using positives instead of negatives can be more easily
> interpreted.
>
> Brent Skean
> Current Solutions
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crued @ Enteract <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, July 13, 2001 8:05 AM
> Subject: RE: IF VB IS SO GOOD WHY ARE YOU USING RBASE!
>
> >Too much here to read. Synopsis...
> >
> >1) VB Rulz
> >2) If it weren't for VB we wouldn't have the quality of application
> >development in MANY of the other languages today.
> >3) If it weren't for VB we wouldn't have the lack of quality of
> application
> >developers we have today.
> >4) No reason you can't use RBase (Oterro) with VB.
> >5) .NET is a platform for the future, yes it's been done before, but now
> >the theory will actually work with Microsoft behind it. By your notes, we
> >should all be writing COBOL, cause it's still around and hasn't changed
> >since the brontosaurus roamed the earth.
> >6) You cannot compare an OOP language like VB.NET and Rbase, that's like
> >comparing seltzer water to Pepsi. Yes they both have bubbles but one is
> >sweet and delicious out of the can, and the other tastes like crap until
> >complimented by something sweet and delicious.
> >7) Give Bill a hug, he's our friend.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Eric
> >
> >ps. Did I mention VB kicks ass?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> >Behalf Of Manuel de Aguiar
> >Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:44 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: IF VB IS SO GOOD WHY ARE YOU USING RBASE!
> >
> >
> >Hello Mike,
> > Oh BOY, .... <several pages of text removed to save you time>
> >
