Turn your screen saver off. ===== Original Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 4/02/02 8:29 am >Have you the TIMEOUT setting set? > > >Ramsour Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>While we're on the subject of Windows 2000/R:Base issues, there is one other >>situation I don't have an explanation for. �On at least two occasions >>recently (including this morning) R:Base will be setting idle and it just >>disappears -- no warnings or anything just an unceremonious shutdown. �It >>just goes bye-bye. �Poof! �Weird huh? �This happened before and I thought I >>may have inadvertently shut it down but I now find that is not the case. >>R:Base starts back up just fine with no database corruption, thank goodness. >> >>Anyone else ever had this happen? �The only programs running at the time >>besides R:Base were Outlook 98, an inactive MSN, and Norton Antivirus >>Corporate Edition. >> >>Any thoughts or insights? >> >>Thanks >> >>Mike Ramsour >> >>p.s. �Looking forward to seeing a lot of you at the Conference. �My boss >>came up with the money to let me go, which is pretty amazing considering how >>tight things are where I work. �Yippee!! �See you real soon. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Sami Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:25 AM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: Windows 2000 error >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Alastair - >> >>I would imagine that things are pretty hoppin' at RBTI at the moment - I'll >>put a bug in Razzak's ear to do us a full-fledged explanation on BLOBs and >>forms & report storage after the conference! >> >>Sami >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 4:33 PM >>Subject: Re: Windows 2000 error >> >> >>> Thanks, Sami, >>> >>> Anybody at RBTI like to jump in - I'm sure that this is an area where we >>> could all learn something!! >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Regards, Alastair. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sami Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: Windows 2000 error >>> >>> >>> > Alastair - >>> > >>> > I don't know of any way to check a form or report for errors in the >>> Windows >>> > version - in fact, I don't know much at all about the BLOB data - this >>> would >>> > be a good time for someone at RBTI to jump in with a better >>explanation!!! >>> > >>> > I do know you _can_ still do some things with forms and reports that at >>> one >>> > time I thought you _couldn't_ do, like: >>> > >>> > If you want to find which forms use the EEP "Button.eep" you could: >>> > >>> > SELECT * FROM SYS_FORMS2 WHERE #4 CONTAINS 'BUTTON.EEP' >>> > >>> > but that's just a teaser for my presentation on "Understanding System >>> > Tables" at the Developers' Conference<g>... >>> > >>> > Sami >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 12:23 PM >>> > Subject: Re: Windows 2000 error >>> > >>> > >>> > > Sami, >>> > > >>> > > I'm sure that you are right as to the reasons for crashes being >>> corruption >>> > > and/or code error but I do think that the Windows version is much more >>> > prone >>> > > to crashes than the older Dos ones. Presumably this is simply because >>it >>> > is >>> > > much less forgiving of mistakes than it was before - fair enough. >>> > > >>> > > One area where I find it much more difficult check for corruption and >>> > errors >>> > > in the db now in Forms and Reports as they are stored differently than >>> > > before. In the past it was possible in Dos to look at the data for >>these >>> > > sys_tables and sometimes see if they were corrupted. Now there appears >>> to >>> > me >>> > > to be no way to know if a form or report is apparently working >>properly >>> > but >>> > > causing some problem due to hidden corruption. >>> > > >>> > > Do you know what happens to the blob data when a db is reloaded? Does >>it >>> > get >>> > > written out in the same way as the "text" data does where an error >>often >>> > is >>> > > obvious? Is there some way to check forms and reports for integrity? >>> > > >>> > > Thanks & regards, >>> > > Alastair. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > From: "Sami Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:27 PM >>> > > Subject: Re: Windows 2000 error >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > Mike - >>> > > > >>> > > > In my experience, 99% of the time a fatal error is caused by either >>a >>> > > > corrupt database or an error in my program. � I would do these >>things: >>> > > > >>> > > > 1. �reload the database >>> > > > 2. �run R:Style on the command file >>> > > > 3. �clear all variables, then trace your script file thru from the >>> very >>> > > > beginning, one command at a time, with messages and error messages >>> > turned >>> > > > on. >>> > > > >>> > > > The other 1% of the time has been a bug and/or code change in R:BASE >>> > from >>> > > an >>> > > > earlier version to the current version. >>> > > > >>> > > > If you still have problems, post your command file here. >>> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> > > > Sami Aaron >>> > > > Software Management Specialists >>> > > > 19312 W 63rd Terr >>> > > > Shawnee KS �66218 >>> > > > 913-915-1971 >>> > > > http://www.softwaremgmt.com >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > From: "Ramsour Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > > > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:52 AM >>> > > > Subject: Windows 2000 error >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > I am getting frequent crashes in R:Base (latest version) running >>> under >>> > > > > Windows 2000. �The error I get is: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > The instruction at 0x00745x07 referenced memory at 0x1263410c. >>The >>> > > memory >>> > > > > could not be "read". >>> > > > > >>> > > > > I have done some research on this and find references to similar >>> error >>> > > > > messages related to buffer problems with Win2K that were >>supposedly >>> > > > resolved >>> > > > > with the latest service packs. �I am running Win2k with service >>pack >>> 2 >>> > > on >>> > > > a >>> > > > > HP Kayak with dual 550 mHz processors and 256 mb of RAM. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > There are: >>> > > > > BUFFERS = 60 >>> > > > > FILES =60 >>> > > > > >>> > > > > environment variables set and I run with some of the Microrim >>memory >>> > > > > variables set that were suggested on the list some time ago. �I >>> cannot >>> > > > > pinpoint this problem to any particular event other than it >>usually >>> > > occurs >>> > > > > while running an R:Base script that I have written. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should look for or >>how >>> I >>> > > can >>> > > > > resolve this problem? �Is this a Windows 2000 issue, an R:Base >>issue >>> > or >>> > > a >>> > > > > user/programmer issue? �Any help is immensely appreciated. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Thanks >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Mike Ramsour >>> > > > > AK Steel >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Voice: �740-829-4340 >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > ================================================ >>> > > > > TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: >>> > > > > Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l >>> > > > > ================================================ >>> > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l >>> > > > > ================================================ >>> > > > > TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: >>> > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > ================================================ >>> > > > TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: >>> > > > Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l >>> > > > ================================================ >>> > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l >>> > > > ================================================ >>> > > > TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: >>> > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ >>> > > >>> > > ================================================ >>> > > TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: >>> > > Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l >>> > > ================================================ >>> > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l >>> > > ================================================ >>> > > TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: >>> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > ================================================ >>> > TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: >>> > Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l >>> > ================================================ >>> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l >>> > ================================================ >>> > TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ >>> >>> ================================================ >>> TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: >>> Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l >>> ================================================ >>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l >>> ================================================ >>> TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ >>> >>> >> >> >>================================================ >>TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: >>Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l >>================================================ >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l >>================================================ >>TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ >> >>================================================ >>TO SEE MESSAGE POSTING GUIDELINES: >>Send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>In the message body, put just two words: INTRO rbase-l >>================================================ >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>In the message body, put just two words: UNSUBSCRIBE rbase-l >>================================================ >>TO SEARCH ARCHIVES: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/rbase-l%40sonetmail.com/ >> > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. 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