David & Randy,

>From what I can see it's already there, or at least meant to be there - it's
just getting at it that seems to be a problem.

Take a look at R:Syntax for edit using about halfway down...

Regards,
Alastair.


----- Original Message -----
From: "David M. Blocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Edit Using & MDI forms


> Randy
>
> I think yhou've hit on a key point - obvioulsy R:Base can do it - you've
> proved it!
>
> NOW what we have to do is ask for a way to take that same capability and
> allow a developer to set that up for users in an app!
>
> Are you a 7.0 tester? If so, ASK for it!  If not, I will!
>
> David Blocker
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "randyp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Edit Using & MDI forms
>
>
> > Alastair,
> >
> >         Good points.  Forms are now very much more exciting
> > than I remember in my old DOS applications.  I like the nice
> > fonts, the buttons, eeps, colors and all the rest.
> >
> >         My friend Rich Starkey is a Windows whiz.  He can
> > put every table up on the screen at the same time.  He uses
> > this feature to see every table affected by a form and
> > ensure that all the updates were made correctly.  The secret
> > is to open them from the object manager, then change to the
> > size you want, move it, and open another.
> >
> >         All of the 'windows' are hot -- in other words, you
> > point to one and can edit or whatever.
> >
> >         So I tried the same thing in ConComp by going to the
> > object manager and selecting the Forms tab.  I highlighted
> > employee, pressed run and sized it smaller.  Then I
> > highlighted Product and pressed run and sized it smaller,
> > and moved it so it did not cover the previous table.   Now I
> > have two forms with a smaller size, on the screen at the
> > same time.
> >
> >         I can click on Employee Information and use F8 to
> > see the next employees, and F7 to go back.  Then if I click
> > on product information, I can use the Next Row and Previous
> > Row buttons to see other products.  The key is that I do not
> > have to close either form in order for the other to work.
> >
> >         I decide to press my luck and run the product form
> > again, and size it smaller.  Now I have two identical forms
> > on my screen.  By clicking from one to the other, I can see
> > two different products at the same time.  Each form works
> > independently.  And you can click from one to the other
> > without closing anything.  Incidentally I was not able to
> > open and size a report -- it seems to take the whole screen.
> >
> >         Right now I have four tables and three forms showing
> > on my screen.  I simply click on the form or table and it is
> > live.
> >
> >         The question is whether this can be done with
> > program commands, or whether it can only be accomplished
> > using the object manager.
> >
> >         Now from your question and Rich Starkey I have
> > learned another way to keep a lot of useful information and
> > forms in front of me at the same time.  As a developer, this
> > will give you the function you wanted.  But I don't know how
> > to make it available to a user from a program.  If you issue
> > the command EDIT USING product AT 0,0,600,500 a nice small
> > form will appear on screen.  But that command has to be
> > completed -- closed, before the next command is run.
> > Calling a second form using the MDI feature will put them
> > both up, but not click on one, then the other whenever,
> > live.
> >
> >         If you figure out how to do it, I'm sure we would
> > all like to see how.  [If we could just automate the
> > commands used by the Object Manager ...]
> >
> >         Take care,
> >
> >         Randy Peterson
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: Edit Using & MDI forms
> >
> >
> > > Randy,
> > >
> > > Controlling the size and the position of the form is a
> > major step forward as
> > > far as I'm concerned.
> > >
> > > It always seemed odd that whatever size R:Base was - and I
> > like to have it
> > > set to something just slightly smaller than full-screen -
> > a form would
> > > always fill that screen. For a large form that's no
> > problem but for forms
> > > with only a few fields it looked silly to me.
> > >
> > > Now I could, for example, pull up some data on the R:>
> > screen, leave it
> > > there and display a form to one side to do some editing.
> > If I could move
> > > from form to form, or report to form, then I could do
> > things so much more
> > > neatly.
> > >
> > > I agree that if you open forms from forms you have to
> > close them in reverse
> > > sequence although the "manual" implies otherwise. I
> > haven't found any need
> > > to use [Esc] every time though. As far as I know,
> > whichever version of the
> > > syntax I use all the normal buttons to exit work as
> > expected.
> > >
> > > Hopefully, this is all rather academic and v7 will have
> > whatever "problem"
> > > there is here sorted out. In the mean time, however, I
> > like being able to
> > > place a single form wherever I want it over a background
> > image or other
> > > data.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Alastair.
> >
> >
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