----- Original Message -----
From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Edit Using & MDI forms


> David & Randy,
>
> >From what I can see it's already there, or at least meant
to be there - it's
> just getting at it that seems to be a problem.
>
> Take a look at R:Syntax for edit using about halfway
down...
>
> Regards,
> Alastair.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David M. Blocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Edit Using & MDI forms
>
>
> > Randy
> >
> > I think yhou've hit on a key point - obvioulsy R:Base
can do it - you've
> > proved it!
> >
> > NOW what we have to do is ask for a way to take that
same capability and
> > allow a developer to set that up for users in an app!
> >
> > Are you a 7.0 tester? If so, ASK for it!  If not, I
will!
> >
> > David Blocker
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "randyp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: Edit Using & MDI forms
> >
> >
> > > Alastair,
> > >
> > >         Good points.  Forms are now very much more
exciting
> > > than I remember in my old DOS applications.  I like
the nice
> > > fonts, the buttons, eeps, colors and all the rest.
> > >
> > >         My friend Rich Starkey is a Windows whiz.  He
can
> > > put every table up on the screen at the same time.  He
uses
> > > this feature to see every table affected by a form and
> > > ensure that all the updates were made correctly.  The
secret
> > > is to open them from the object manager, then change
to the
> > > size you want, move it, and open another.
> > >
> > >         All of the 'windows' are hot -- in other
words, you
> > > point to one and can edit or whatever.
> > >
> > >         So I tried the same thing in ConComp by going
to the
> > > object manager and selecting the Forms tab.  I
highlighted
> > > employee, pressed run and sized it smaller.  Then I
> > > highlighted Product and pressed run and sized it
smaller,
> > > and moved it so it did not cover the previous table.
Now I
> > > have two forms with a smaller size, on the screen at
the
> > > same time.
> > >
> > >         I can click on Employee Information and use F8
to
> > > see the next employees, and F7 to go back.  Then if I
click
> > > on product information, I can use the Next Row and
Previous
> > > Row buttons to see other products.  The key is that I
do not
> > > have to close either form in order for the other to
work.
> > >
> > >         I decide to press my luck and run the product
form
> > > again, and size it smaller.  Now I have two identical
forms
> > > on my screen.  By clicking from one to the other, I
can see
> > > two different products at the same time.  Each form
works
> > > independently.  And you can click from one to the
other
> > > without closing anything.  Incidentally I was not able
to
> > > open and size a report -- it seems to take the whole
screen.
> > >
> > >         Right now I have four tables and three forms
showing
> > > on my screen.  I simply click on the form or table and
it is
> > > live.
> > >
> > >         The question is whether this can be done with
> > > program commands, or whether it can only be
accomplished
> > > using the object manager.
> > >
> > >         Now from your question and Rich Starkey I have
> > > learned another way to keep a lot of useful
information and
> > > forms in front of me at the same time.  As a
developer, this
> > > will give you the function you wanted.  But I don't
know how
> > > to make it available to a user from a program.  If you
issue
> > > the command EDIT USING product AT 0,0,600,500 a nice
small
> > > form will appear on screen.  But that command has to
be
> > > completed -- closed, before the next command is run.
> > > Calling a second form using the MDI feature will put
them
> > > both up, but not click on one, then the other
whenever,
> > > live.
> > >
> > >         If you figure out how to do it, I'm sure we
would
> > > all like to see how.  [If we could just automate the
> > > commands used by the Object Manager ...]
> > >
> > >         Take care,
> > >
> > >         Randy Peterson
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Edit Using & MDI forms
> > >
> > >
> > > > Randy,
> > > >
> > > > Controlling the size and the position of the form is
a
> > > major step forward as
> > > > far as I'm concerned.
> > > >
> > > > It always seemed odd that whatever size R:Base was -
and I
> > > like to have it
> > > > set to something just slightly smaller than
full-screen -
> > > a form would
> > > > always fill that screen. For a large form that's no
> > > problem but for forms
> > > > with only a few fields it looked silly to me.
> > > >
> > > > Now I could, for example, pull up some data on the
R:>
> > > screen, leave it
> > > > there and display a form to one side to do some
editing.
> > > If I could move
> > > > from form to form, or report to form, then I could
do
> > > things so much more
> > > > neatly.
> > > >
> > > > I agree that if you open forms from forms you have
to
> > > close them in reverse
> > > > sequence although the "manual" implies otherwise. I
> > > haven't found any need
> > > > to use [Esc] every time though. As far as I know,
> > > whichever version of the
> > > > syntax I use all the normal buttons to exit work as
> > > expected.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully, this is all rather academic and v7 will
have
> > > whatever "problem"
> > > > there is here sorted out. In the mean time, however,
I
> > > like being able to
> > > > place a single form wherever I want it over a
background
> > > image or other
> > > > data.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Alastair.
> > >
> > >
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