on 3/24/09 4:38 AM, GeorgeS at [email protected] wrote:

> Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially
> the same bike with different names.  I bought a Rambouillet in 05 and
> I'm told now that it is no longer being made.  But it looks very
> similar to the Homer Hilsen which looks very similar to the Bleroit
> (sp?).   Perhaps I'm not knowledgeable enough to recognize significant
> differences in geometry, construction and materials.  Do they just
> like change the names of their bikes on occasion?

As with all things, the devil is in the details. RBW uses a couple of
different frame building resources, and as such does differentiate the names
of otherwise similar models. But, I think the current models are pretty
discrete.

The Rambouillet is currently "asleep".  There have been a few threads here
on this topic.  The trend is RBW designs seems to be toward frames with
clearance for larger tires, such as the A. Homer Hilsen.

The current A. Homer Hilsen incorporated the Saluki model in the smaller
sizes, or perhaps more accurately, the Hilsen was designed to make a 700C
version of the Saluki. (Larger tires with appropriate frame clearances to
allow fenders, etc.)

The Saluki was RBW's initial 650B offering.  There are strong similarities
between the Saluki and the Bleriot, which was made in Taiwan and distributed
through QBP (probably the major bicycle parts wholesaler in the US).  This
lower-cost model generated significant interest and led to the new
Taiwan-made series of frames which are now arriving/arrived, and will be
sold through RBW and their dealer network.

The new Taiwan series of bikes are different again - Sam Hlllborne seems to
split the difference between the Hilsen and the venerable Atlantis.  The
Betty Foy and Yves Gomez are mixte frames.

Other than minor inline braze-on changes, I don't think the Atlantis has
changed since the outset. (And I'm leaving out the Bombadil and Quickbeam,
as they are pretty unique models.)

The new Rivendell Reader goes into good detail on the Hillborne, and there
are some more ref's on the bicycle model page on the Riv site.

RR Online link - 
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/114
Bike Differences Chart
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-999

More RBW model ref's -
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/

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