Even recognizing all this, when you stand back a bit, it does seem like all
of the Riv models are converging around the concept of "fat tire
all-rounder."  Some, like the Bomba and Atlantis, use a bit stouter tubing
than the others, but the geometries and clearances are pretty similar.

I feel like the models in the current line-up are somehow less distinct than
they were a few years back when you had the Atlantis, the Rambo, Quickbeam.

Each one taken individually is still a really sweet bike though.

Dustin "ain't got nothing against all-rounders because he owns three of
them" Sharp





> From: CycloFiend <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:35:23 -0800
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Query about RBW models
> 
> 
> on 3/24/09 4:38 AM, GeorgeS at [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially
>> the same bike with different names.  I bought a Rambouillet in 05 and
>> I'm told now that it is no longer being made.  But it looks very
>> similar to the Homer Hilsen which looks very similar to the Bleroit
>> (sp?).   Perhaps I'm not knowledgeable enough to recognize significant
>> differences in geometry, construction and materials.  Do they just
>> like change the names of their bikes on occasion?
> 
> As with all things, the devil is in the details. RBW uses a couple of
> different frame building resources, and as such does differentiate the names
> of otherwise similar models. But, I think the current models are pretty
> discrete.
> 
> The Rambouillet is currently "asleep".  There have been a few threads here
> on this topic.  The trend is RBW designs seems to be toward frames with
> clearance for larger tires, such as the A. Homer Hilsen.
> 
> The current A. Homer Hilsen incorporated the Saluki model in the smaller
> sizes, or perhaps more accurately, the Hilsen was designed to make a 700C
> version of the Saluki. (Larger tires with appropriate frame clearances to
> allow fenders, etc.)
> 
> The Saluki was RBW's initial 650B offering.  There are strong similarities
> between the Saluki and the Bleriot, which was made in Taiwan and distributed
> through QBP (probably the major bicycle parts wholesaler in the US).  This
> lower-cost model generated significant interest and led to the new
> Taiwan-made series of frames which are now arriving/arrived, and will be
> sold through RBW and their dealer network.
> 
> The new Taiwan series of bikes are different again - Sam Hlllborne seems to
> split the difference between the Hilsen and the venerable Atlantis.  The
> Betty Foy and Yves Gomez are mixte frames.
> 
> Other than minor inline braze-on changes, I don't think the Atlantis has
> changed since the outset. (And I'm leaving out the Bombadil and Quickbeam,
> as they are pretty unique models.)
> 
> The new Rivendell Reader goes into good detail on the Hillborne, and there
> are some more ref's on the bicycle model page on the Riv site.
> 
> RR Online link - 
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/114
> Bike Differences Chart
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-999
> 
> More RBW model ref's -
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/
> 
> -- 
> Jim Edgar
> [email protected]
> 
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> 
> "My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it.
> That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective
> suits.  Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to
> see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it."
> -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac"
> 
> 
> > 
> 



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