Both. Riding this bike is faster than walking (except when I'm pushing
it, which has already happened on both of my rides) and also I can go
places I can't go on my other bikes.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM, redsydude <thaus...@q.com> wrote:
> This will probably get deleted because I don't know how to make it not sound
> snotty but it is a sincere question.  Is the point to get to places on a
> bike that would be easier to get to by just backpacking or is the bike still
> helping you go farther/faster?
>
>
> On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> It's a Surly Krampus built up by Cycle Monkey, the US service partner
>> for Rohloff. Belt drives are a natural partner to internal gear hubs,
>> so Cycle Monkey builds up a lot of Rohloff + belt drive bikes. They
>> sent the frame to their "chop shop" to have the frame split for the
>> belt and to have a few other mods. They do a lot of frame
>> modifications. When they sent my frame to the "chop shop," they also
>> sent seven other Surly frames:
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=664808040227860&set=pb.304605066248161.-2207520000.1396021612.&type=3&theater
>>
>> I asked Neil at Cycle Monkey how soon I needed to replace the belt.
>> Maybe 15 thousand miles, he said.
>>
>> The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns
>> out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for
>> that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit
>> Minneapolis in the summer instead ;)
>>
>> I debated on whether to pick the ECR or the Krampus. The ECR is more
>> of a touring style bike, with a lower bottom bracket and more stable
>> handling, and the Krampus is more of a trail bike, although both of
>> them are well suited to rough technical terrain. I ended up deciding
>> that if I needed a bike to tour on smooth gravel roads, I already have
>> one, in fact I already have two, my two Atlantises. So this bike is
>> for tours that include somewhat rougher terrain.
>>
>> Yesterday I took the bike up a canyon that I've ridden before on my
>> Atlantis. I felt comfortable riding several obstacles I wouldn't do on
>> my Atlantis: a creek crossing, a sharp dip. I was glad of the higher
>> bottom bracket on a single track I hadn't ridden before, where I had a
>> couple of pedal strikes even with the higher bracket. And I was able
>> to descend back down the canyon in confidence; on the Atlantis I would
>> always go back home from that ride on the road. Midnight, Prince of
>> Darkness has traction to burn, and the disk brakes provide strong
>> stopping power, so I felt in control on the descents.
>>
>> Other Riv riders are better bike handlers than I am, and would have
>> tackled these obstacles on their Rivendells. But for me, the Krampus
>> is a good choice for more technical terrain.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com> wrote:
>> > Based on ground clearance, I'm guessing Krampus and completely prepared
>> > to
>> > be wrong. Grin.
>> >
>> > With abandon,
>> > Patrick
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:48:07 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Nice bike! ECR? or Krampus? or ??
>> >>
>> >> Did you have to get an aftermarket split for the belt drive?
>> >>
>> >> Happy riding! Shoji
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:30:49 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It's not a Rivendell, but it has some Rivvy features. Meet Midnight,
>> >>> Prince of Darkness:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> https://plus.google.com/photos/+JohnLamping/albums/5995658591943182593?authkey=CKDxg7ehtuv6QQ
>> >>>
>> >>> I got it yesterday, took it out for a longer ride today. Fantastic. I
>> >>> quickly got used to the instant Rohloff shifting. Rohloff + belt drive
>> >>> means not much maintenance, which is good for someone with my slipshod
>> >>> habits.
>> >>>
>> >>> It's not obvious in the picture, but those tires are not just wide,
>> >>> but HUGE. I rode my Atlantis over to get the car to drive up to Cycle
>> >>> Monkey to get Midnight. So then I had two bikes to put in the car, and
>> >>> I happened to put the Atlantis wheel next to Midnight's wheel. The
>> >>> Atlantis' tire is not tiny; I have Schwalbe 1.9's on the bike.
>> >>> Midnight's wheel was six inches taller. Huge.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now I can do dirt tours and not get nervous on narrow bumpy trails.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have a USB port in the stem. Because I am a nerd.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> -- Anne Paulson
>> >>>
>> >>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.
>> >
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