Hardly an unracer approach but it does address the difference in speed between on bike and on foot, is the current speed records for a long, technical trail. I looked up the Colorado Trail:
Bike (unsupported?): 3d:23h:38m Hike (unsupported): 10d19h5m I can't imagine trying to enjoy such a trail at those speeds, but then that's not what racing is all about. My daughter and I took 5 days on the Colorado Trail last year, and covered 25 miles, with a fire bit of LCG (lowest common gear, aka hike-a-bike). We had a fantastic time. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, March 28, 2014 11:12:53 AM UTC-6, redsydude wrote: > > This will probably get deleted because I don’t know how to make it not > sound snotty but it is a sincere question. Is the point to get to places > on a bike that would be easier to get to by just backpacking or is the bike > still helping you go farther/faster? > > On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: >> >> It's a Surly Krampus built up by Cycle Monkey, the US service partner >> for Rohloff. Belt drives are a natural partner to internal gear hubs, >> so Cycle Monkey builds up a lot of Rohloff + belt drive bikes. They >> sent the frame to their "chop shop" to have the frame split for the >> belt and to have a few other mods. They do a lot of frame >> modifications. When they sent my frame to the "chop shop," they also >> sent seven other Surly frames: >> >> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=664808040227860&set=pb.304605066248161.-2207520000.1396021612.&type=3&theater >> >> >> I asked Neil at Cycle Monkey how soon I needed to replace the belt. >> Maybe 15 thousand miles, he said. >> >> The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns >> out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for >> that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit >> Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) >> >> I debated on whether to pick the ECR or the Krampus. The ECR is more >> of a touring style bike, with a lower bottom bracket and more stable >> handling, and the Krampus is more of a trail bike, although both of >> them are well suited to rough technical terrain. I ended up deciding >> that if I needed a bike to tour on smooth gravel roads, I already have >> one, in fact I already have two, my two Atlantises. So this bike is >> for tours that include somewhat rougher terrain. >> >> Yesterday I took the bike up a canyon that I've ridden before on my >> Atlantis. I felt comfortable riding several obstacles I wouldn't do on >> my Atlantis: a creek crossing, a sharp dip. I was glad of the higher >> bottom bracket on a single track I hadn't ridden before, where I had a >> couple of pedal strikes even with the higher bracket. And I was able >> to descend back down the canyon in confidence; on the Atlantis I would >> always go back home from that ride on the road. Midnight, Prince of >> Darkness has traction to burn, and the disk brakes provide strong >> stopping power, so I felt in control on the descents. >> >> Other Riv riders are better bike handlers than I am, and would have >> tackled these obstacles on their Rivendells. But for me, the Krampus >> is a good choice for more technical terrain. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com> >> wrote: >> > Based on ground clearance, I'm guessing Krampus and completely prepared >> to >> > be wrong. Grin. >> > >> > With abandon, >> > Patrick >> > >> > >> > On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:48:07 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: >> >> >> >> Nice bike! ECR? or Krampus? or ?? >> >> >> >> Did you have to get an aftermarket split for the belt drive? >> >> >> >> Happy riding! Shoji >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:30:49 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: >> >>> >> >>> It's not a Rivendell, but it has some Rivvy features. Meet Midnight, >> >>> Prince of Darkness: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> https://plus.google.com/photos/+JohnLamping/albums/5995658591943182593?authkey=CKDxg7ehtuv6QQ >> >> >>> >> >>> I got it yesterday, took it out for a longer ride today. Fantastic. I >> >>> quickly got used to the instant Rohloff shifting. Rohloff + belt >> drive >> >>> means not much maintenance, which is good for someone with my >> slipshod >> >>> habits. >> >>> >> >>> It's not obvious in the picture, but those tires are not just wide, >> >>> but HUGE. I rode my Atlantis over to get the car to drive up to Cycle >> >>> Monkey to get Midnight. So then I had two bikes to put in the car, >> and >> >>> I happened to put the Atlantis wheel next to Midnight's wheel. The >> >>> Atlantis' tire is not tiny; I have Schwalbe 1.9's on the bike. >> >>> Midnight's wheel was six inches taller. Huge. >> >>> >> >>> Now I can do dirt tours and not get nervous on narrow bumpy trails. >> >>> >> >>> I have a USB port in the stem. Because I am a nerd. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> -- Anne Paulson >> >>> >> >>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- Anne Paulson >> >> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. 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