And what is this paragon that Bill is so infatuated with?

On 06/25/2014 10:37 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
The BB drop on the larger models is perfect for a 650b conversion...

-J

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

    Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes.  Many of
    us like various classic or retro properties:  lugs, friction dt
    shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc.  Several of us really enjoy
    doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc.  Many of
    us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all.
     But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things
    that are decidedly new.  Some of us run fatbikes.  A few of us
    maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a
    dual-suspension 29er.  Some of us even have a carbon bike.

    My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm
    pretty darned infatuated with this bike:

    
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    A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike.
     135mm rear end, disc brakes.  Very smart front facing fork tips
    and normal wheel axles.  Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and
    would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders.  Has all
    the integrated fender mount points.  Has a PF30 BB that makes it
    easy to set it up as a singlespeed.

    Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050
    and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s).  So it's an
    $800 frameset.

    I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like.  Five
    years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much
    for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern
    real-world bike I thought was missing.  I have bikes that are
    setup to carry loads well.  For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do
    unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden.  I imagine it
    would be incredibly fun

    Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you?

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