I have told more than one person to check out the book, and everyone who
has comes away with at least some amount of perspective they didn't have. I
don't think there is anything life altering in the book but the fact that
someone is sticking their neck out and saying it makes a big difference.


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Ryan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well...if I won the lottery ,making me wealthy enough to retire and take
> care of family and do something philanthropic etc....maybe ....A
> Cervelo(Designed by Canadians)....road  bike and then I can blend in with
> all of those well-to-do folks who ride Cervelos. Actually, CF and all, I
> think they're quite aesthetically pleasing and a couple of people I've
> talked to really enjoy them...at least ...I hope they really do enjoy them
> and aren't just talking themselves into that state of mind because they've
> invested 5 figures in the bike. Probably a moot point , though, because I'm
> pretty happy with what I have. I do enjoy looking at and talking about what
> other people have, too.
>
> Another more real-world choice would be a fat bike.Some Surly model
> perhaps...I think the latest is the Ice-cream truck.Those Surly people do
> some great work and don't take themselves too seriously. They haven't
> forgotten that a bike should be , above all else,fun
>
> On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>>  Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes.  Many of us
>> like various classic or retro properties:  lugs, friction dt shifters,
>> fewer than 11 cogs, etc.  Several of us really enjoy doing builds on
>> classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc.  Many of us lament that nothing new
>> or contemporary speaks to us at all.  But many others of us do have
>> openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new.  Some of us run
>> fatbikes.  A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder,
>> or a dual-suspension 29er.  Some of us even have a carbon bike.
>>
>> My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty
>> darned infatuated with this bike:
>>
>>
>> <https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg>
>>
>> A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike.  135mm
>> rear end, disc brakes.  Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel
>> axles.  Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38
>> tires (tubeless) with fenders.  Has all the integrated fender mount points.
>>  Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed.
>>
>> Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and
>> get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s).  So it's an $800
>> frameset.
>> I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like.  Five years ago,
>> when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road
>> racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was
>> missing.  I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well.  For mixed
>> terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden.
>>  I imagine it would be incredibly fun
>>
>> Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you?
>>
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