I'd be interested in folks' experience with the XL size too. This frame is 
really really close to my ideal; recently I've even come to think discs are 
a good idea on this type of bike.  At this point my biggest hesitation is 
the wheel size, even though I thought the wheels on my 29er felt TOO big, 
650B still scares me for some reason. 

Dan

On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 11:10:32 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> I don't know what the XL standover is but the Elephant folks did offer to 
> work with me on a full custom NFE frame since the stock sizes in their 
> production run will not fit me.  I promised not to divulge any specifics so 
> I won't, but I would recommend calling or emailing them and talking to them 
> about it.
>
> I didn't end up getting the frame built, but it wasn't due to a lack of 
> want - the reasons were primarily financial on my side.  I ended up buying 
> that 68 Redwood that was on eBay a while ago - but the Redwood is 
> definitely more of a compromise for the intended task than the NFE would 
> have been.
>
> I would contact them and see if they will work with you, if you don't 
> think the stock XL would fit.  Nice folks.
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Daniel Jackson <daniel.se...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Anybody out there have an XL Elephant? If so, might you report the 
>> standover?
>>
>> Thanks much,
>> D.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 6:40:14 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> There were a ton of the NFE on the Oregon Outback and I have to admit I 
>>> was envious. Many were setup just like I had my Atlantis - front panniers, 
>>> rando boxy bag, and a saddle bag. They can fit 2.35 knobbies, or 42 slicks 
>>> with fenders. On the wet descents with the loaded bike, I definitely wanted 
>>> their disc brakes. I have Paul touring canti's with kool stop salmon and 
>>> they were all but useless when we got up to 70km/h with wet rims. The 
>>> finish on them is very good, and they're very light. I'm actually planning 
>>> on buying one next season, but keeping the Atlantis for the real heavy 
>>> lifting. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 7:10:55 PM UTC-5, Hudson Doerge wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I absolutely love my first batch NFE. The tubing is perfect for my 
>>>> weight, uses, and riding style. The fork is more supple than my previous 
>>>> rawland rsogn and my simpleone, but all things aren't equal so it's pretty 
>>>> hard to say with certainty. As I understand it, it's possible to make a 
>>>> supple disc fork, but very difficult in a production setting. Glen had 
>>>> special mounts machined locally to keep the fork as compliant as possible. 
>>>> All I really know is that the bike rides wonderfully and was a killer 
>>>> value 
>>>> for a domestically made frame. Highly recommend. 
>>>>
>>>> Hudson in atx. 
>>>
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