Great review and insight into your thought process, Christian! NFE and 
Jones both look like great bikes!

On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 1:12:18 PM UTC-7, Christian wrote:
>
> Hi All, 
>
> Let's see if I can link the NFE, the Jones, and Rivendell sufficiently to 
> make this on topic. I sold my Hunqapillar to fund my Jones. I really liked 
> the Hunq, but I love the Jones. Very different bikes so not really fair to 
> compare, but for my purposes the Jones is the better option. I use it 
> mostly for singletrack and have put in up to 9 hour trail rides on it. It's 
> an exceptional bike. But it's not the same thing as the NFE (not that Mike 
> was saying this explicitly) so I don't think I'd choose one or the other 
> for similar purposes.   
>
> So, I will have both. 
>
> I really loved my Terraferma, but always felt the fit was slightly off. 
> I'd become a convert to 650B, however, and so when I learned of the NFE I 
> made plans to sell my Terraferma. The disc brakes were a major selling 
> point for me. After getting back into mountain biking a couple of summers 
> ago (to which I credit the Hunq) and trying discs I was blown away. I know 
> there's been lots of discussion here about the merits of cantis but FOR ME 
> there's no contest. BB7s are incredibly simple to set up and are far 
> superior--IN MY EXPERIENCE--to the Paul Toring cantis I had on the 
> Terreferma (to be honest, the 15 year old $10 Deore V brakes on my LHT are 
> better than the Pauls--heresy, perhaps). I know some will disagree and 
> that's fine. 
>
> I'll use the NFE (should be here in a few weeks) in the same way I used 
> the Terraferma: for mixed terrain road riding as well as paved only rides. 
> And if I return to randonneuring I'll use it for that too. For me, the 
> Jones is best left as a mountain bike. But it for sure could be set as a 
> capable all arounder with different wheels. For now it's set up as a fat 
> front. 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/16710535399/in/dateposted-public/
>   
>
> One thing that's neat about the Jones is that it takes a little wind out 
> of the sails of those--like me, for a time--committed to thinking fit was 
> some sort of magic. After all, they only come in one size! Just tweak here 
> and there, listen to Jeff's advice, and you're all set. He asked me how 
> tall I am, whether or I wanted to sit up a bit or be in a more agressive 
> position. He then told me what stem he thought I should get. That was it. 
> Bike fits fantastically.
>
> Anyway, hope all the Riv folks don't mind the digression!
>
> Christian 
>

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