such a sweet bike! On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 10:57:32 AM UTC-4, Kurt Manley wrote: > > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kvURmaOaZ10/VjOFSVmFxPI/AAAAAAAAARY/L9n7ddk1L3M/s1600/bike.png> > That's my bike and it works great with regular bullmoose bars! > > On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Zed Martinez wrote: >> >> Chris, last year on the Blug there was a prototype of this that as near >> as I can tell here plotting it out in Illustrator had the same proportions >> as the final 62cm Appaloosa, and they actually built it up with an >> old-school bullmoose and not the bosco-sweepy ones: >> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/79299784498/long-strong-new-blue-lotsa-lugs-62cms-122 >> >> I'll let you know after I try it on the Clem next week with an albastache, >> but as near as I can tell from the geometry and from another bike I have >> with a 60mm real top tube (a Simcoe roadster), there's no reason these new >> frames couldn't be built up with "flat" bars for a more mountain-bikey >> posture if you don't mind a little leaning (I prefer it to bolt upright). >> The only thing they require is that the handlebars have to be high (but the >> long reach means despite being high you don't lose the leaning you would >> have with lower closer bars on a traditional frame), and at least on the >> Clems but maybe less on the Appaloosas with their shorter by a smidge top >> tubes an implied non-use of drops. Still, I think with the long top tubes >> and high bars they look perfectly suited to lesser sweep upright and flat >> bars too, personally. I'll report back on if that blows up on me with the >> Clem, since these Appaloosas seem to have been the inspiration for the Clem >> geometries. >> >> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 9:56:07 AM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: >>> >>> I've never owned a Riv but as a potential future buyer, I strongly >>> prefer the Atlantis/Bombadil/Hunqapillar line of bikes over the Clem and >>> Appaloosa. I have reservations about the super long chainstays but mostly >>> my reservations revolve around the move to designing bikes for bars with >>> huge rise and sweep-back. I like traditional MTB bars with 9-10 degrees of >>> backsweep and up to about 40mm of rise and I like more of my weight planted >>> on the front wheel. I don't know if the new models would work well for me >>> in this area. >>> >>> I just wish RBW would make a less expensive version of those bikes >>> offered as a frameset rather than the direction they are currently going. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 11:33:06 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote: >>>> >>>> Yea, I'd really like to have that Joe. It's a great looking bike and I >>>> really like those handlebars. It's also a great price. >>>> >>>> I don't think it's the Clem owners who should have any regrets, it's >>>> the Bomba and Hunq owners. That Joe is about half their price? This Joe >>>> could have an impact on the Riv resale market. I was convinced a Clem was >>>> better than my 80's mountain bikes, (IT"S WAY BETTER), now couldn't a >>>> brand >>>> new Joe be better than a used Hunq, or Bomba? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 8:35:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Wood wrote: >>>> >>>>> Any Clem buyers regretting their decision? I'm waiting for my 59 Clem >>>>> but the 58 Joe seems appealing. A lot of the same positive features (long >>>>> chain stays, tire clearance, high bars, load carrying capacity), but it >>>>> seems the joe could be set up as a drop bar fast tourer. I feel like the >>>>> Clem geometries prevent it from being a go fast or drop bar bike, but >>>>> that >>>>> being said I haven't even ridden it yet. The joe is obviously in a >>>>> different price bracket and I don't see the purpose of owning both one >>>>> day >>>>> due to their similarities. I'm just going to love my Clem and have fun >>>>> riding it, that hasn't changed. >>>> >>>>
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