Dave! Awesome! May all our tests go as well as yours! Grin. Tips for the times you noticed the higher CG:
1: Yes. A bike not moving yet with weight handles far more sensitively to gravity vs when moving than an unloaded bike does. Become sensitive to keeping it vertical and this becomes a non-issue, and is self-reinforcing. Grin. 2: When standing to climb, keep the bike more vertical, so less or no rocking about. When standing to stretch, hug the saddle with your thighs. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 7:34:10 AM UTC-6, Dave Small wrote: > > Thanks, all, for the tips and feedback. Yesterday I installed the large > Saddlesack, loaded it with 16 lbs of bottled water, and took it out for 53 > miles. I had a small Trunksack in front instead of the Acorn Boxy Rando > I'll take on the trip, but I figured that wouldn't affect my major decision > which was Saddlesack or panniers in the back. Most of the trip there was a > moderate crosswind, which was a worse-case scenario for the top-heavy > effect I was testing. > > The bike handled very well, and I could tell right away that it would be > fine. I'll take the Saddleback on the trip. I noticed the top-heaviness > only under 2 circumstances: > > 1. When I was tilting the bike toward me to mount or dismount it. The > first time I did it I was caught off guard and almost dropped the bike, but > after that I expected it and it wasn't a problem. > > 2. When I stood on the pedals and coasted to give my butt a 10-second > break, the bike wanted to sway more than it normally does. My raised > body contributed to the overall top-heaviness, but I could feel it more > than I do when I do that on an unloaded bike. It wasn't a problem, just > something I noticed. > > Overall I was quite happy with this configuration. > > Marc, thanks for the link. I know what items I'm gonna take and know I > can fight the urge to take more, although I'll probably throw in an extra > shirt and pair of shorts if there's lots of extra room. > > Jeff, that's an interesting progression of luggage options, which based on > your description comes from lots of experimentation. Did you rank front > panniers ahead of rear panniers because it handles better or because of > other considerations, such as relieving some stress from the rear wheel? > > Weth, I'll post some pics when I get back, as well as general impressions. > > > Palmer, I don't know the route yet. Most or all of it in Michigan will be > along USBR35, but I'll also have a Garmin Edge Touring and may sometimes > follow that "off course" if it takes me that way. If M22 is part of USBR35 > then I'm sure I'll be on it. I've read that the bike route is well-marked, > and I'm hoping that's true. It'll be my first experience with a USBR. I've > also read that US bike routes aren't always the best available route > because they had to get local communities to agree to be part of it, and > sometimes the local communities---for one reason or another---didn't want > that to be on it. The Garmin won't pay any attention to that objection, if > it's working properly (which it did yesterday, but it hasn't always in the > past). We're starting on July 1 from Bear Lake and will be spending nights > in Ludington, Muskegon, Saugatuck, and Bridgman, MI, and then in Plymouth > and Peru, IN. The Michigan stops look like good places with plenty to do; > the Indiana stops not so much but they seemed like the best options > available. > > > > On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:19:38 AM UTC-4, Palmer wrote: >> >> Hello Dave, >> Are you Riding M22? I live along BR35 near Muskegon and you will have a >> wonderful ride. My favorite is from Manistee to Sleeping Bear and >> northward. When are you going? I will be there July 5-7, not sure where I >> will start. Free parking at the Manistee Airport is very compelling but I >> want to explore father north too. As stated already try different things, >> you will adjust to he handling quickly as long as not carry too much >> weight. M22 has some good hills, last trip hit 42 mph with 25 lbs on the >> bike. High speed stability is a good thing. This was on a Schwinn Passage >> with front panniers, a rack and basket, and small saddlebag. >> Have fun, >> Tom Palmer >> Twin Lake, MI > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
