I know it's undertaken in a helpful spirit, Joe. You must cut me some 
slack, as I am of the opinion that our modern civilization truly went off 
the rails when the telephone climbed down off the kitchen wall. If you 
start advocating for chainsaws, that will be another story. (I will say 
that a departure need not be radical to cause a fundamental shift.) 

On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:49:51 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Well Mark, this thread is an offshoot of the one asking about potential 
> Rivs which don't exist, so that's the spirit of Hunqadiscer. And yes, I 
> would think it would originate from one of the youngsters as Clem did. 
> That's why I brought it up with Roman instead of Grant, who'd rather have a 
> hole in his head than listen to another one of my hare-brained Riv schemes. 
>
> I think a disc Riv would sell, and I don't think it would be a radical 
> departure from what in all other ways would be a traditional steel 
> Rivendell bicycle. 
>

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