've ridden every iteration of the Atlantis and have convinced myself (if nobody else!) that I have a good feel for how they ride. I know it's easy to look at numbers or air gaps and lock in to a conclusion, but riding the bike (which, I understand, few people of the luxury to do before buying it) is a better test.
The 3.5% to 4% wheelbase increase doesn't demerit the flat-paved ride quality at all (read: I can't tell). Last week on trails I thought it was "on the quick side of things." On trails I prefer the much longer CLEM 59. The CLEMs were the bikes that opened my eyes. When Keven got his custom, he wanted LONGER than 56cm chainstays. His favorite bike ever, and still his main everyday bike with 15,000+ miles on it, is the 56cm-chainstayed Cheviot. It's tough. These are largely emotional and theoretical discussions. Here inside me, I feel like I'm coming to realize and getting my eyes opened to ways to make bikes ride even better. It's a minor bummer to find the latest greatest prides and joys evaluated harshly because the numbers don't fit into familiar spreadsheets, whether on paper on in brains. I'll retreat now with these parting words: As good as the earlier Atlantis bikes are, the newie tops 'em, but the difference is subtle, and the bar and wheel choice have far more influence on a bike's spiritedness than the chainstays. OK! On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Grant Petersen <[email protected]> wrote: > The point which I flopped in making is that a bike that "performs" at the > fringes can certainly handle the middle, but not necessarily the other way > around. I should have been more clear. > > Grant > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:01 PM, John Phillips <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Grant wrote, >> >> "We've ridden a lot of bikes, lots of variations, and we live surrounded >> by roads and trails no more than 15 minutes by bike away. It's not DP-Rocky >> Mtn style, but as BL and JW and other locals will attest, it's hard to >> beat. More important, we ride them. I admittedly don't have the challenges >> of fitting bikes into elevators or navigating 3-floor walkups, and I'm >> sympathetic to those who do, but that's what Bromptons are for." >> >> So...the Atlantis is changing from a touring bike to a Mt. Diablo >> trail/fire road model for East Bay, non-multi-modal commuting, ranch home >> owners? To me this is clear as mud, and it seems like a very small >> demographic to be aiming at. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/to >> pic/rbw-owners-bunch/ww2KxKe9KPE/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
