I think the new Atlantis will absolutely be a better touring bike! I have a 56cm, 26" 1st run Atlantis and its the squirrelest of all the Riv's I've owned/tried. (Ram, Rom, Heron, Bleriot, Joe) Something about the smaller wheel diameter combined with road bike geo, doesn't put a lot of weight on or inertia in the front wheel. The front end can wash out and oversteer with or without bags. If you raise the bars it gets noticeably worse. Think about the vast difference in center of gravity between low drops, high drops and Choco bars! It's hard to design for all those.
Solution: Long chainstays! That will put more weight on the front end! Longer stays will help with pannier heel clearance, and tire clearance as well. Note: I've been using my Atlantis last year as an unloaded road bike and loving it. Putting fat comfortable tires on a road bike was a brilliant idea, but it can and should be improved. I no longer notice the squirly front end if I ride it for 30% of my rides. It does seem close to the Appaloosa, but I can see a space where one is designed for uprights and one is designed for drops. That change and the associated weight shift really does deserve a different geometry I think. Dave J Virginia On 3/22/18, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 03/22/2018 05:42 PM, iamkeith wrote: >> Jeesh, you guys. I think that I, or maybe most of us, forget how >> idiosyncratic our world views are. I'm certainly guilty of >> forgetting that most of this forum is made up of people how live in or >> near urban areas and ride on paved surfaces - however 'rough' they may >> be. But remember that one man's fringe is another man's middle. >> That fatbike is what I'm forced to ride for 7 months out of a year, >> if I wish to even get on a bike at all. The other 5 months, my >> actual "roads" look like backcountry trails compared to the buffed-out >> fire trails in the hills around RBW Headquarters. > > Now if only you had one of those Classic Rendezvous sigs like mine > below... Where do you live, anyway? > > >> >> The Atlantis is NEVER going to be appropriate for even the middle >> ground, for me. A hard-tail, 29+ mountain bike, perhaps. If you >> want a bike in the vein of the Weigle/Heine Concours rig, get a damn >> Homer or Sam. The Atlantis is and always was optimized for >> comfortable, long-distance touring on any surface it's likely to >> encounter. > > Honestly, I think that Weigle's got the "comfortable" and "long > distance" things well in hand. Maybe not the "tent plus cannibal > cooking pot plus your entire wardrobe stuffed into a duffel bag" side of > "touring," though. > > > > -- > Steve Palincsar > Alexandria, Virginia > USA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ww2KxKe9KPE/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
