Speaking of Fabio's chest, has anyone used both the largest Saddlesack and
this bag, and can you tell me how they compare in actual, usable grocery
loading? I found the Saddlesack Large too small for the bigger grocery
loads I carry; for example, I sometimes cram a 12 pack into a large pannier
along with puffy bags of this or that; Saddlesack Large was too small.

But the Fabio's Chest ought to carry more even than my pair of Roller
Packers, which carry as much as I need to carry, and it ought to be easier
to load. I'm thinking of the FC for the Hon Solo with a Nitto QR
attachment; on a Flite, the QR attachment makes the bag hang low, and that
ought to work just fine with the gap between saddle and high-sitting Dahon
rack.

For now, I've found a way to attach the Roller Packers to the Dahon
Ultimate Cargo Rack (
http://shop.dahonbikes.com/p/dahon-ultimate-rear-carrier?pp=8) so that they
clear my feet and still fit tightly on the rear rack of the 2003 Riv; but a
really big saddlebag would be even better.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 8:28 AM Shoji Takahashi <shoji.takaha...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
> Yes, Fabios Chest is designed to-be mounted on handlebars and also on
> saddle loops. The YouTube video with Poppi describing the features is
> informative. https://youtu.be/Ge4v9t5JkfQ
>
> Good luck!
> shoji
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 6:26:51 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Jon. I wonder if that can be installed on a saddle.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:38 AM Jon BALER <wcp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ultra Romance Fabios Chest is 44 liters....
>>> https://ultraromance.bigcartel.com/product/fabschest-olive-cordura
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 4:50:11 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, don't know; sold my Hoss a couple of years ago. From my
>>>> recollection of loading both, I'd guess it's much the same as that of a
>>>> large Saddlesack.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:18 AM Steven Sweedler <swee...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Patrick, any idea what the capacity of the Hoss, I know it helps to
>>>>> have12” from saddle loops to rack/support.
>>>>> Tracking for mitten shells: 9500 1137 6261 8345 1986 89
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:22 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, all; this is the info I needed to decide -- that the Large is
>>>>>> not Large enough for me. Too bad, because I really like saddlebags, in a
>>>>>> sentimental, impractical way, rather as I like the *idea* of
>>>>>> Moustache bars. And, there was a Large offered for sale at a reasonable
>>>>>> price recently,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW, my Ortlieb Sports Packers carry 30 litres the pair while my
>>>>>> Roller Packers carry 40, so until someone makes a 50 liter saddlebag, I
>>>>>> guess I'll stick with panniers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Class: for your homework tonight, draw a picture of a 50 liter
>>>>>> saddlebag mounted to a 49 cm frame.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick Moore, who despite his preference for panniers, presently
>>>>>> owns: Carradice Junior; Carradice Camper Longflap; Carradice SQR Slim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 5:11 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I checked my memory in a roundabout way and am 97.8 percent sure I'm
>>>>>>> correct.  I have a pair of Carradice Kendal panniers and was considering
>>>>>>> using those last spring on a tour, and remember thinking that the total
>>>>>>> volume of the Kendals at 32 liters was about the same as that of my 
>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>> Saddlesack, so capacity-wise it didn't matter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
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