> I've seen the Berthoud saddles in the flesh (should that read leather)
> and they look awful compared to the Brooks.
> The back is plastic, the leather is mottled and the shape loots
> malformed. They might be a dream to ride, but
> just on looks a Brooks wins.

The Cork Berthoud saddles are tanned with a natural process, so every
one looks different.  Maybe I got lucky, but mine looks rather nice in
my eye anyway.

The plastic back allows for additional flex, thus the added comfort.
I've had B-17s and find the Berthoud to be more comfortable.

On Mar 19, 8:34 pm, usuk2007 <[email protected]> wrote:
> +1 a wide saddle with deep sides looks strange on an agressively setup
> bike with some handlebar drop.
> I'm amazed that more folks on here haven't tried the Brooks narrow
> saddles like the Swift.There are alternatives
> to the B17.
>
> I've seen the Berthoud saddles in the flesh (should that read leather)
> and they look awful compared to the Brooks.
> The back is plastic, the leather is mottled and the shape loots
> malformed. They might be a dream to ride, but
> just on looks a Brooks wins. I have B17s on my Ram, Atlantis and
> Quickbeam and love them, but a B17 on
> my racier Neo Primato would have looked too heavy and from what I read
> wouldn't be as comfortable as the Swift
> is turning out to be
>
> On Mar 19, 6:10 pm, Patrick in VT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 19, 4:38 pm, usuk2007 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >  I just think
> > > the B17 looks a little "clunky" on the Roadeo.
>
> > i think it depends on the set-up too - a B17 is a fine saddle when the
> > bars are at (or even above, as some like) saddle height.  in my
> > experience, narrower saddles feel better when there is some handlebar
> > drop and the bike is set-up for more aggresive riding.
>
> > i think it's same as far as looks go to - wider saddles look just fine
> > when the handlebars are up, narrower saddles look better with some
> > handlebar drop.
>
> > a b17 narrow would be another option.  that's a nice saddle for all
> > you brooks fiends.

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