That's my experience with B-17s. The only one that has been comfortable is
the one on the Sam with bar flats just under an inch higher than saddle;
though I ride a lot in the deepish Noodle drops. The only factor that makes
me anxious is the chafing of the, you guessed it, nose in the crotchal seams
(sorry!), but if I lower the nose I am afraid I'll destroy the hammock like
comfort of the rear part of the saddle. I'll put many more miles on it,
first, then, if it seems unlikely to be suitable for multi-day riding, I'll
try to adjust the tilt. But I have a Flite in store, just in case.

The Pro *is* comfortable, for me, with bars 2" below saddle; but again, the
tilt was impossible to fine tune just right after 12 or 18 months; either
goosed or sliding onto my hands.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Michael_S <[email protected]>wrote:

> I have had the same experience. I used a b-17 on my Curtlo ( now sold)
> about 1 inch blow the saddle... only time it felt ok was sitting up
> climbing, I took it off after a week. When I got my new Hillborne and
> tried it with the bars level with the saddle... voila... I was
> instantly comfortable with really no break in period.
>
> I guess I'll have to see what to do with the new Coho when I get the
> rest of the parts and build it. I own a regal that I was using on the
> Curtlo. Guess I'll try that 1st.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Mar 19, 5:01 pm, Dustin Sharp <[email protected]> wrote:
> > For me at least, anything more than an inch or so and I had a hard time
> > getting comfy on a B17, no matter how much I played with tilt. Most of my
> > bikes have close to two inches of drop.
> >
> > Set up with a set of albatross bars and a more upright position, the same
> > B-17 genital torture device became quite pleasant to ride.  When you can
> get
> > it right, nothing is more comfy than a Brooks.
> >
> > I'm tempted to try one of the new Berthoud saddles to see if that works
> > better than the B-17 with about 2 inches of S-t-B drop.
> >
> > Dustin
> >
> >
> >
>

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