I just caught this:
http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2003/2003moabmaze/pages/DSC01285.html
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4473833906/

Kindred spirits.

So.. will someone build up a Hillborn in this manner?  Or post pics if
you got it? Seems like it would be pretty perfect for such a build.
Don't mean to hijack the "skinny tires offroad" thread.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Mar 30, 9:06 am, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote:
> I love all this stuff - and Grant's and Chris' writings are fun,
> provocative, and useful. Rough riding & underbiking is where its at.
> Seems to be a common interest among the Riv Appreciation Society
> riders down here.
>
> It is indeed fun to ride a road bike with Jack Browns or Pasela 32s or
> 35s out on the trails.  Its a gas.  I'm also having a gas on the
> Rawland with 58mm knobbies, but all-rounder geometry.  Think "XO-1
> with a 6 degree upslope tt and fat ass tires."  I don't get out on
> singletrack as much as I like, but when I do (Big Laguna loop, Los
> Penasquitos Preserve, San Clemente Canyon, Nobel Canyon here in SD
> County), I certainly have a ball on that bike.  I like to ride to the
> trail if possible, and the knobbies sure do cause a racket!
>
> I'm an overly cautious rider on dirt, and as Chris mentions, a lot of
> where I ride can be pretty darn rocky offroad.  And if I'm to believe
> Dustin, some of the rides I'd like to do would cause more sanity with
> suspension.
>
> I think suspension is helpful if you're in a group.  The thing is, and
> here's where I think Grant's spot on (if indeed conservative), if you
> just go slow, hike-a-bike, enjoy the scenery, you can take any bike
> nearly anywhere.
>
> Looking forward to the Rough Riders Rally to discuss this further with
> kindred souls!
>
> On Mar 30, 9:28 am, CycloFiend <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > on 3/30/10 4:20 AM, Frederick, Steve at [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from his
> > > location--Marin County is opposed, even hostile toward biking on trails, 
> > > going
> > > all the way back to the birth of modern mountain biking.  The less you 
> > > look
> > > like a "Mountain biker," the less likely you are to face the wrath of 
> > > upset
> > > hikers and ticket writing rangers.
>
> > Actually, Grant and Rivendell's location is in the East Bay - specifically
> > Contra Costa county. That doesn't change or undercut his message - and in
> > fact his comments are incredibly salient.
>
> > I, on the other hand, have somehow managed to remain in Marin.
>
> > Lucky me... ;^)
>
> > In the interest of not promoting stereotypes, it should be noted that
> > attitudes of hostility here in "the birthplace of mountain biking" have
> > refined and mellowed over the years.  Yes, there are high-profile and
> > hotheaded comments made from the same entrenched individuals on both sides
> > of access issues, and that tends to get press when it happens.  But, the
> > facts are that bicycles have been common on the trails for more than 20
> > years. in general, people are used to them and realize they aren't going
> > anywhere.
>
> > Most people behave well. Many people could use some constructive criticism.
> > Some people have no clue.
>
> >http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=273
>
> > I do find that when people see me way up some trail on the Hilsen or
> > Quickbeam, the first response is to smile.  But, I'm pretty proactive in
> > doing the same and finding something to comment about, other than saying
> > "onyerleft".  Wildflowers, birds and weather are always good starting
> > points.  
>
> > - Jim
>
> > --
> > Jim Edgar
> > [email protected]
>
> > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> > Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> > Singlespeed - Working Bikes
> > Workshops of the iBob's

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