If the SH would take tires 20 mm fatter than 40, I'd build it up like this in a minute -- drops, though. A low bb drop barr'd, light-tubed (relative to most mtbs) off road bike would indeed be a blast.
Question: does riding full suspension on the road, with riser bars (and against a headwind) count as underbiking? On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote: > I just caught this: > > http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2003/2003moabmaze/pages/DSC01285.html > and > http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4473833906/ > > Kindred spirits. > > So.. will someone build up a Hillborn in this manner? Or post pics if > you got it? Seems like it would be pretty perfect for such a build. > Don't mean to hijack the "skinny tires offroad" thread. > > Esteban > San Diego, Calif. > > On Mar 30, 9:06 am, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote: > > I love all this stuff - and Grant's and Chris' writings are fun, > > provocative, and useful. Rough riding & underbiking is where its at. > > Seems to be a common interest among the Riv Appreciation Society > > riders down here. > > > > It is indeed fun to ride a road bike with Jack Browns or Pasela 32s or > > 35s out on the trails. Its a gas. I'm also having a gas on the > > Rawland with 58mm knobbies, but all-rounder geometry. Think "XO-1 > > with a 6 degree upslope tt and fat ass tires." I don't get out on > > singletrack as much as I like, but when I do (Big Laguna loop, Los > > Penasquitos Preserve, San Clemente Canyon, Nobel Canyon here in SD > > County), I certainly have a ball on that bike. I like to ride to the > > trail if possible, and the knobbies sure do cause a racket! > > > > I'm an overly cautious rider on dirt, and as Chris mentions, a lot of > > where I ride can be pretty darn rocky offroad. And if I'm to believe > > Dustin, some of the rides I'd like to do would cause more sanity with > > suspension. > > > > I think suspension is helpful if you're in a group. The thing is, and > > here's where I think Grant's spot on (if indeed conservative), if you > > just go slow, hike-a-bike, enjoy the scenery, you can take any bike > > nearly anywhere. > > > > Looking forward to the Rough Riders Rally to discuss this further with > > kindred souls! > > > > On Mar 30, 9:28 am, CycloFiend <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > on 3/30/10 4:20 AM, Frederick, Steve at [email protected]: > > > > > > I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from > his > > > > location--Marin County is opposed, even hostile toward biking on > trails, going > > > > all the way back to the birth of modern mountain biking. The less > you look > > > > like a "Mountain biker," the less likely you are to face the wrath of > upset > > > > hikers and ticket writing rangers. > > > > > Actually, Grant and Rivendell's location is in the East Bay - > specifically > > > Contra Costa county. That doesn't change or undercut his message - and > in > > > fact his comments are incredibly salient. > > > > > I, on the other hand, have somehow managed to remain in Marin. > > > > > Lucky me... ;^) > > > > > In the interest of not promoting stereotypes, it should be noted that > > > attitudes of hostility here in "the birthplace of mountain biking" have > > > refined and mellowed over the years. Yes, there are high-profile and > > > hotheaded comments made from the same entrenched individuals on both > sides > > > of access issues, and that tends to get press when it happens. But, > the > > > facts are that bicycles have been common on the trails for more than 20 > > > years. in general, people are used to them and realize they aren't > going > > > anywhere. > > > > > Most people behave well. Many people could use some constructive > criticism. > > > Some people have no clue. > > > > >http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=273 > > > > > I do find that when people see me way up some trail on the Hilsen or > > > Quickbeam, the first response is to smile. But, I'm pretty proactive > in > > > doing the same and finding something to comment about, other than > saying > > > "onyerleft". Wildflowers, birds and weather are always good starting > > > points. > > > > > - Jim > > > > > -- > > > Jim Edgar > > > [email protected] > > > > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > > Workshops of the iBob's > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rbw-owners-bunch%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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