"I do see one advantage of ordering from Riv, and that's Grant's input and 
oversight.  That makes it more likely to ride like a Riv---there's some 
insurance there---but it's expensive insurance.  Obviously not everyone will 
agree with me, 'cause they do sell some customs."

I'm a very specific custom customer and will explain why it works for me (mine 
is at Joe Bell's awaiting paint). 

I'm aware that I could have gone with someone local - like say, Fitz - for a 
little less money (and I love his work). But I'm not like a lot of you who want 
a full immersion buying experience with lots of measuring and talking, that's 
stressful for me. Grant knows me, what I'm built like and the kind of riding I 
do. I need an uber-upright frame now to accommodate my arthritis so I pointed 
at another custom they had done, explained the situation and gave them my PBH 
and general riding/parts style, and said "Make me one that looks kinda like 
that, have Joe Bell make it pretty, I'll pay you."  

Another factor is I've been following the Grant/Riv thing since before there 
was a Riv, and this is my one shot before I get too old/disabled to get the 
full zoot deal with "Rivendell" on the downtube. I want it, I want that Riv 
ride and I have the money. It's happening!

Joe Bernard
Marin County CA. 

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