I will disagree slightly with Steve, but only slightly.  Imagine Builder X 
had access to a lugged BB shell that was perfect for all the tubes coming 
in.  All the angles and clearances were perfect.  With that hypothetical BB 
shell on hand, then functionally, fillet brazing and lugged would be 
functionally equivalent.  Both strong, both reasonable weight.  Totally 
equivalent and absolutely impossible to tell the difference in use.  

If that hypothetical BB shell was already on hand, then the lugged assembly 
work would be cheaper.  Maybe not a whole lot cheaper, but not more 
expensive.  

If that hypothetical BB shell was NOT on hand and you had to go cast a new 
one, custom, then that's prohibitive.  Say $5000-$10000 and a few months to 
get something set up to cast a new BB shell.  Once you've done the prep 
work, then manufacturing hundreds or thousands of them is not that 
expensive, but that first one is really expensive.  Nobody makes a true 
custom cast lug.  No frame builder casts custom lugs for their custom 
frames.  Will they someday, with metal 3D printing?  Perhaps, but not 
today.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 12:27:28 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Usually they're used because the "lugged" ones don't allow you to angle 
> the chain stays enough to provide the clearance to make room for really 
> wide tires.  I'd call that "functionally better".
>
>
> On 2/28/20 1:11 PM, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> The new Atlantis and Crust Nor'easter both are lugged with a filet brazed 
> bottom bracket.  I assume it reduces the cost but is it functionally better, 
> worse, or the same as a lugged bb shell? 
>
>
> -- 
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
>

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