speaking as a person who did/does not like the original design, either
of the "Marty Photoshop" designs are way better and lend a unique
quaulity to the bike. Just sayin".

~Mike~

On Apr 5, 9:48 am, William <[email protected]> wrote:
> When I portage my Hillborne up and down the long steps of the South
> Hayward Bart station, I grab it hard on the seat tube and loop my
> thumb into the top loop of the King cage that is bolted to the seat
> tube.  If I'm wearing knit gloves, it's hard to get a good grip.  More
> than once I've thought that it would be great to have a second top
> tube about halfway down the seat tube to simplify urban portage.
>
> On Apr 5, 9:12 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J"
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I don't post very often (Jim pointed out there's an endless footer attached 
> > to my messages when I do!), but let me offer the opinion of an Atlantis and 
> > Bombadil owner (which means that I ain't buying one no matter what the 
> > decision is):  I think the diagonal 2tt (the Campeur approach) is extremely 
> > attractive, AND cool, AND very likely highly, highly functional.  For those 
> > who agree with the first two judgments (and there will obviously be 
> > disagreements), it is a grand slam home run.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of happyriding
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:04 PM
> > To: RBW Owners Bunch
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar
>
> > Just an opinion, and not meant to insult anyone...but that is the
> > ugliest bike I've ever seen.   Sorry.  Just one opinion.
>
> > I suspect one reason Rivendell might like to do the diagonal 2tt is
> > marketing: it helps differentiate the Hunaqpillar from the Bombadil--
> > even if it doesn't improve on it.   But if Rivendell's goal is to
> > actually sell some frames, then I think a diagonal 2tt will be a tough 
> > sell.  But then I thought the Bomadil would be a tough sell, too.
>
> > Also, unless Rivendell does some testing on the strength differences (do 
> > they even have the capability?), I think that using a diagonal 2tt would be 
> > a rash decision.
>
> > As for people like EricP, this new diagonal 2tt idea seems contrary to 
> > everything Rivendell said during the pre-order period:
>
> > 1) Trust us
> > 2) July delivery a good possibility
> > 3) Only minor tweaks
>
> > I imagine Rivendell would be willing to return deposits--but that won't 
> > cure the disappointment.
>
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