I think it's a waste of energy to get upset about something like
this.  First, it's a bicycle.  Bicycles are fun.  Second, if you're
upset about it, give it a few days and see if you still feel the same
way.  It's going to be a nice bike.

On Apr 5, 1:50 pm, happyriding <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just read that myself.   It seems like some hard feelings are being
> formed.
>
> On Apr 5, 3:28 pm, William <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > .....and Grant posted about the various opinions, and indicated that
> > one refund was given already.  I think that's too bad, but nobody
> > should buy a bike that they cannot like.
>
> > On Apr 5, 8:27 am, Dan Abelson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:23 AM, EricP <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Having looked at the first mockup, I'm not convinced.  Jars my view
> > > > too much.  Also makes it look like it's a "fatty" bike.  Fine.  I'm
> > > > fat.  That's been established.  Don't like the idea that I'm stuck
> > > > riding a "special" bike.
>
> > > > With full-length twin laterals, ala the Singer camping, or the
> > > > original Breezer, that might work.  That's a copy of the Schwinn
> > > > Excelsior frame.
>
> > > > Also, on a slightly different note.  With the center tube, would make
> > > > it difficult to sqeeze both a larger bottle and frame pump in without
> > > > interference.  At least on a 58.  And forget using a pump with a mount
> > > > like the Topeak Morph series.
>
> > > > Finally, it looks like a half hearted attempt to copy a Salsa Fargo.
> > > > Without the extra standover.
>
> > > > Yes, I'm upset about this.  Will probably end up losing a lot of money
> > > > selling off my frame without building it up.  Not something I can live
> > > > happily with.
>
> > > > Sigh.
>
> > > > Eric Platt
> > > > St. Paul, MN
>
> > > Eric,
>
> > > If Riv makes the change, I would just call them.  I would not be suprised 
> > > if
> > > they were willing to refund your deposit if you are truly unhappy with the
> > > change to the top tube.
>
> > > Dan Abelson
> > > St. Paul, MN

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