I'm curious about your budget, mostly just as an extension to your narrative. You've told several times that Chauncey Matthews was really slow to build your previous custom, and as a partial apology charged you only $1000 for it. You refused to pay that little and forced him to accept $1200, and have repeatedly said it's worth 2x to 3x the price. Given all the special one of a kind fabrication associated with this new frame, including a rear spacing that he's likely never done before, it seems to me that this new project, with all it's details could be substantially more involved than your previous custom Matthews. If you believe your previous Matthews should have cost $2400 to $3600, and if your new Matthews is say half-again more involved with details, should your budget be $3600-$5000? I was thinking about the numbers when you were asking about giving Bilenky the job. As an urban-location builder, with an international reputation, I'd imagine Bilenky could easily cost double Chauncey Matthews, but then you'd be looking at a $7200 - $10000 frameset, which I just can't imagine your Scottish genes allowing you to spend.
What's your budget? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 4:01:07 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > > Chauncey picked up the 2003 Curt this morning to use as the model for the > clone. At the last minute, we discussed tubing and I said, why not standard > gauge 531? I didn't specify "C", if that is even available nowadays, but I > told him, no touring-spec tubing, and Chauncey has a predilection for light > frames. He texted me just now and said he'd ordered 531. So we'll see if it > makes a difference over, say, oversized, thinwall, heat-treated tubing. I > expect it won't, but at least I'll have a new tout-531 frame. > > FWIW, all the light frames I've owned have been 531: 1989 Falcon; 1973 > Motobecane G Record; and currently owned but not built 19-*old* Libertas > that with steel Campy headset weighs 5 lb 9 oz in a 60 X 56 c-c size. So, > 531 won't hurt, at any rate. Me, I don't think I've ever experienced > "planing", but it won't hurt to try. And, the '03 never has felt as > spritely as the '99. > > Clone will ride like the '99 and '03 with the 559 X 28 wheels -- that is > the foundational design principle -- but accept Naches Passes with fenders, > God willing. Built for AM-hub wheel and QR trigger shifting system (OEM SA > wingnuts), but the Surly fixed wheel will be the mainstay. Integrated racks > and fenders, internal wiring (well, I told him to use exterior loops if > absolutely necessary). No dt shifter bosses or stops, no derailleur hangar > (hope eventually to build the Libertas up as a tubular derailleur retro > road bike). > > All, God willing ... > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ec50953c-f159-41ae-89cc-90f4060f747b%40googlegroups.com.
